Game Thoughts

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Screens and draws into a stacked box?

Today was more about heavy pressure, for which misdirection is one of the best antidotes.

[Mr. Scot]

11 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Sorry man, you can try and excuse it but Bryce was awful and absolutely the biggest problem. Not sure what game you had on but if not for penalties on the first drive, he would not have led a single scoring drive. He was atrocious. We can’t do QB sneaks. We can’t do long passes.

We had 2 potential scoring drives. First one was extended due to penalties otherwise Bryce throws a pick. Second was a blocked FG. Outside those two drives, we had 28 plays on 8 drives. Basically we averaged a little over 3 and out on 8 of 10 drives. Most of those ended with inaccurate passes or a pick. Refs generously helped us out so we didn’t get shutout by a 1-8 team.

Canales hasn’t been amazing but it’s hard to work around the shitty QB play we saw today. We worked around it at GB but we were never behind. Bryce’s interception just made winning last week harder. This week, it just close the door.

At what point have I excused Bryce?

I chose to discuss problems other than Bryce because Bryce discussion is largely futile.

That's not making excuses. It's just walking away from the deceased equus.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

We took a victory Monday off, had Keegan-Michael Key in for a zoom speaker and generally had a great time living on the laughs and loves of beating Green Bay.

And then the Saints came to town and had their first rookie QB win a game since 1981... 1981.

fug. 

 

I don't object to either of those things by themselves.

Not if we come into this game with better preparation and awareness, at least.

[bigdog_10_2002]

We’re going to have to let Bryce fully sink. He’s going to have to be told that he needs to hit some shots downfield. 
 

if you are coaching in a manner where you believe he is completely incapable of that, then you pull the plug now. 
 

all that is moot if your boss, the owner, is mandating Bryce be played to save face. 
 

[thennek]

I am not convinced a new coaching staff would have any more success than the current. The stink comes from the top which is the owner. This team has looked horrible since Tepper has been the owner and through multiple coaching staffs they have all looked bad. I have a hard time believing that is a coincidence. 
 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, bigdog_10_2002 said:

We’re going to have to let Bryce fully sink. He’s going to have to be told that he needs to hit some shots downfield. 

if you are coaching in a manner where you believe he is completely incapable of that, then you pull the plug now. 

all that is moot if your boss, the owner, is mandating Bryce be played to save face. 

Not really an option unless Canales wants to go down with him.

Gotta do the best they can through season's end.

(even if I'm not especially optimistic)

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, thennek said:

I am not convinced a new coaching staff would have any more success than the current. The stink comes from the top which is the owner. This team has looked horrible since Tepper has been the owner and through multiple coaching staffs they have all looked bad. I have a hard time believing that is a coincidence. 

I'd like to give Canales a chance with a different quarterback.

But there are also issues Canales needs to fix which have nothing to do with Bryce.

[kungfoodude]

42 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Canales has some of the same weaknesses Rivera did.

What he did today was pretty much the same thing Rivera did in the Super Bowl, i.e. failing to anticipate what teams might do against us and laying a backup plan.

His depth chart management and playing time decisions are a little off too (again, like Rivera).

His game adjustment ability is next to nothing. Never has been.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

His game adjustment ability is next to nothing. Never has been.

Which also calls back to Rivera

(as do some of the vet player preferences I feel like we're seeing)

I do wanna see Canales with a different QB, different DC and also some different on staff mentors.

Still might not work out, but...

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Which also calls back to Rivera

(as do some of the vet player preferences I feel like we're seeing)

I do wanna see Canales with a different QB, different DC and also some different on staff mentors.

Still might not work out, but...

I actually don't. I think he is a bum HC.

[Oldschool Leroy]

Mr. Scot, as you have over the years, you have tried again to salvage this forum by attempting to give us huddlers something worthwhile to discuss. I applaud your attempt; thank you for still being here. Please keep trying; some of us appreciate it.

[thennek]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd like to give Canales a chance with a different quarterback.

But there are also issues Canales needs to fix which have nothing to do with Bryce.

Agreed on letting Canales pick his own QB and hope Tepper allows it. Timing is everything and it’s a shame Darnold or Baker were not here when Canales arrived. 

[Mr. Scot]

34 minutes ago, Oldschool Leroy said:

Mr. Scot, as you have over the years, you have tried again to salvage this forum by attempting to give us huddlers something worthwhile to discuss. I applaud your attempt; thank you for still being here. Please keep trying; some of us appreciate it.

Many thanks...

Sure wish it were under better circumstances

[Mr. Scot]

26 minutes ago, thennek said:

Agreed on letting Canales pick his own QB and hope Tepper allows it. Timing is everything and it’s a shame Darnold or Baker were not here when Canales arrived. 

Still can't believe we wasted three years Matt Rhule

Edited 47 minutes ago by Mr. Scot