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Mr. Scot

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55 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

His game adjustment ability is next to nothing. Never has been.

There is some truth in what you and Mr. Scott are saying, but you really can't make that many adjustments in the passing game when Young is your quarterback. He literally cant pass the ball downfield on effectively on consistent basis. All a DC has to do on long passing downs is double TMAC and drop every one down to the sticks. Bryce isn't going to throw the ball more than 20 yards down field so all the DBs have to do is keep everything in front of them and see if they can even jump a couple of routes to get some turnovers.

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Just now, SCO96 said:

There is some truth in what you and Mr. Scott are saying, but you really can't make that many adjustments in the passing game when Young is your quarterback. He literally cant pass the ball downfield on effectively on consistent basis. All a DC has to do on long passing downs is double TMAC and drop every one down to the sticks. Bryce isn't going to throw the ball more than 20 yards down field so all the DBs have to do is keep everything in front of them and see if they can even jump a couple of routes to get some turnovers.

Bryce is a big problem but this issue exists even when Dalton plays. DC is just not a good HC.

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

He might be.

I'm willing to give him one more shot, but I'm gonna be skeptical till there's reason not to.

I am pretty close to over it.

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1 minute ago, SCO96 said:

There is some truth in what you and Mr. Scott are saying, but you really can't make that many adjustments in the passing game when Young is your quarterback. He literally cant pass the ball downfield on effectively on consistent basis. All a DC has to do on long passing downs is double TMAC and drop every one down to the sticks. Bryce isn't going to throw the ball more than 20 yards down field so all the DBs have to do is keep everything in front of them and see if they can even jump a couple of routes to get some turnovers.

There were adjustments that could have been made, even with what we had.

They weren't.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't object to either of those things by themselves.

Not if we come into this game with better preparation and awareness, at least.

I thought it was great when I saw it earlier in the week, too.

But I think it showed that the team has matured quite enough to not be driven hard yet.

And I know, it's a long way to the bye week still. And Atlanta won't be the same pushover we fought earlier.

Maturity checks, reality checks...

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1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

I thought it was great when I saw it earlier in the week, too.

But I think it showed that the team has matured quite enough to not be driven hard yet.

And I know, it's a long way to the bye week still. And Atlanta won't be the same pushover we fought earlier.

Maturity checks, reality checks...

Scott Fowler's quote from Ekwonu focuses on that.

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12 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

At what point have I excused Bryce?

I chose to discuss problems other than Bryce because Bryce discussion is largely futile.

That's not making excuses. It's just walking away from the deceased equus.

It’s just as much a dead horse to keep trying to blame other things over Young. He was absolutely the reason we lost, period. There was no gaming around a D that had zero respect for Young throwing downfield and Young playing right into their hands. The defense had two slip ups but they had us in the game and I can’t blame them for mistakes/getting worn down when your QB has 8 of 9 3 and outs after the opening drive.

We have one problem to fix to get us to the point where we can then discuss other issues. Until then, the rest is just verbal diarrhea.

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3 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

It’s just as much a dead horse to keep trying to blame other things over Young. He was absolutely the reason we lost, period. There was no gaming around a D that had zero respect for Young throwing downfield and Young playing right into their hands. The defense had two slip ups but they had us in the game and I can’t blame them for mistakes/getting worn down when your QB has 8 of 9 3 and outs after the opening drive.

We have one problem to fix to get us to the point where we can then discuss other issues. Until then, the rest is just verbal diarrhea.

Not "over Young"

Besides Young 

At no point have I excluded Young from the team's problems. I rather set out to have a discussion of issues other than Young (and said so in the very first post).

Going into a topic about problems other than (or in addition to, if you prefer) Young and saying "but what about Bryce" as if it's excusing him is Missing the Point 101 😕

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