Mike White or Hendon Hooker coming back?

[45catfan]

White has had some success in the League, albeit very brief.  That's better than Hookers zero experience.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

You really have to ask yourself why they cut both of them and left themselves down to the two pieces of poo we currently have rostered at QB in the first place?  It is asinine.  Absolutely ridiculous.  My theory is that either or both Hooker and White make Bryce feel less secure with his role, so they chose to eliminate the distractions.  No doubt in my mind, White is a better NFL QB than Bryce - he has the tape to prove it.  Hooker is still an unknown for the most part, but I know without a doubt he has better presence and physical tools than Bryce.

They cut them because they had other roster needs and both of them will be couch bound indefinitely as no other NFL team would have any interest at all.

They are discardable assets that will always be available. Hence why they are still available.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Bryce has to finish out this season.  Every game.   It's the only way  I believe Dan Morgan will move on from his dude.  Leave no doubt or room for him to keep hanging on to his and Fitterer's guy. 

I think you ride Bryce until it is clear to EVERYONE he isn't the guy and isn't worth the 5th option.

Once that happens, then rock Dalton the rest of the way and call it a season.

There are no magic pills on the scrap heap at the moment.

[strato]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think you ride Bryce until it is clear to EVERYONE he isn't the guy and isn't worth the 5th option.

Once that happens, then rock Dalton the rest of the way and call it a season.

There are no magic pills on the scrap heap at the moment.

Yeah. Some people need to be hit over the head, five times. 

[ProcessBlue2]

56 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Without a running game they aren't winning anything

That’s my point. If they finish 7-10 they will be back next year. Bryce won’t 

[Panthera onca]

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

I genuinely don't see the point in starting anyone other than Bryce or Dalton the rest of the season.

We're not finding our long term solution off the scrap heap at this time of the year, so no need to "see what they've got"

And even if Bryce and/or Dalton continue to be terrible and cost us games.  Again, what's the point in trying to "fix" that at this point in the year, just take the losses and better draft positioning while making it much easier to move on from Bryce in the offseason after he's finally lost all his support amongst fans so nobody is upset when we cut for trade him for a conditional 7th rounder.

There is an argument to be made that bringing in a better QB will still allow for the pass catchers to develop more.  But again, at this point, that ship seems sailed, there isn't a Jameis gunslinger type out there where it would do what is intended.  Even a Hooker or White type of guy is going to take time to develop any timing with these guys and it won't help much before the season is over.

For me it is a selfish wish. I’m tired of my eyes bleeding while watching Bryce try to play QB.

[tukafan21]

16 minutes ago, Panthera onca said:

For me it is a selfish wish. I’m tired of my eyes bleeding while watching Bryce try to play QB.

I’m clearly no Bryce fan, but I’m not sure signing and playing guys who can’t even stay on a roster or practice squad isn’t going to alleviate your issues with watching us play 

[ProcessBlue2]

5 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I’m clearly no Bryce fan, but I’m not sure signing and playing guys who can’t even stay on a roster or practice squad isn’t going to alleviate your issues with watching us play 

I wouldn’t mind seeing a QB play that’s not Bryce or a 40 year old Dalton. That would be interesting. 

[Sup]

If it's one of those two guys, it has to be White. It's possible that Hooker would be significantly worse than Young. 

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I’m clearly no Bryce fan, but I’m not sure signing and playing guys who can’t even stay on a roster or practice squad isn’t going to alleviate your issues with watching us play 

I think once you have cleary established Bryce Young is not an NFL QB(as any intelligent football person should have by now) then it's time to just throw poo at all the wall and see if it sticks. That is at least trying.

Beating your head against the wall over and over hoping your skull gets strong enough to get through concrete is just insane.

[Panthera onca]

9 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I’m clearly no Bryce fan, but I’m not sure signing and playing guys who can’t even stay on a roster or practice squad isn’t going to alleviate your issues with watching us play 

I’m certainly willing to take that chance. Your guy #4 would have a much better chance at high level production with a QB willing to cut it loose and let players make plays.

[fanpanther]

would actually be entertaining for the panthers to sign random fa qbs let them try a sunday out just to c some no name guys get a shot. kyle trask would be my choice of random guys ti give a shot

[ProcessBlue2]

6 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

would actually be entertaining for the panthers to sign random fa qbs let them try a sunday out just to c some no name guys get a shot. kyle trask would be my choice of random guys ti give a shot

I wouldn’t mind Trask either. Everyone says he’s apparently really dumb. Idk. 

[tukafan21]

16 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I wouldn’t mind seeing a QB play that’s not Bryce or a 40 year old Dalton. That would be interesting. 

 

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think once you have cleary established Bryce Young is not an NFL QB(as any intelligent football person should have by now) then it's time to just throw poo at all the wall and see if it sticks. That is at least trying.

Beating your head against the wall over and over hoping your skull gets strong enough to get through concrete is just insane.

Totally fair points, but I think it's being overlooked that the locker room seems to genuinely like and believe in Bryce.

You sign a guy off the street and bench Bryce for them, you're going to lose the locker room in an instant and it will cause much bigger problems moving forward than just putting up with Bryce the rest of the year.

11 minutes ago, Panthera onca said:

I’m certainly willing to take that chance. Your guy #4 would have a much better chance at high level production with a QB willing to cut it loose and let players make plays.

And yes, that would be way better for T-Mac's production, but as I've said all year long, while I want to see T-Mac succeed, I'm not rooting for that over the team itself and in particular, our long term outlook.

So like I said above, I think that would be great for T-Mac's production, but terrible for the overall locker room and team morale, which would lead into an ugly offseason.  You just have to let Bryce finish out the year as it's what will keep the players engaged and caring, benching their guy is a good way to get players to quit and/or just be pissed at the organization.

If this is in Week 3 or something, it's a different scenario, but there are only 7 games left in the season, we're pot committed and just need to play out our hand at this point.