David and Derek Carr on the Panthers video

[Navy_football]

15 hours ago, CRA said:

I refuse to watch the OG 2 Gloved QB David Carr ever again.  

But for the OP, Carr is the 3rd #1 overall draft pick QB that has played for us.   Well, the first.  We just didn’t draft that one. 

but this post was informative. Now I understand why you have more tolerance than I with our current QB

We've had at least 4.

Carr

Cam

Baker

Bryce

[Navy_football]

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Also, for context, Carr was sacked an average of 3.3 sacks/GM during his time in Houston.

Carr was actually a great prospect. He had it all. Houston broke him. So bad that he NEVER recovered. 

Honestly always felt that's what was going on with our #1 pick QB. Hopefully he's finally getting his confidence back now. Hopefully. 

[Mr. Scot]

15 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Daniel Snyder saved us from Greg Little in the first by taking Haskins which left us Burns. Hurney had said he would have taken him at 16. Instead he traded up in the 2nd to get him only to have him shipped out 2 years later for a late round pick and a stale twinkie. 

I know everyone says Hurney was a 1st round genius with his record, but some of it was other teams being stupid and some must of been just sheer dumb luck. Hars to believe anyone could be that good (1sts) and that terrible (2nd-7th) at everything else. 

Greg Little...Damn, I swear I'd successfully blocked that name out of my memory but it's all coming back t me now

And yeah, same thing happened with DeAngelo Williams. We reportedly had Laurence Maroney ahead of him on our draft board but Belichick moved up and took him ahead of us. 

[csx]

15 hours ago, cranky said:

First I didn't know they had a youtube channel; second I do not remember David playing for the Panthers but apparently he did; third, I didn't know Derek had a brother that also played in the NFL and finally fourth, it's a short video and there's realy nothing new here but it's great listening to them dissect plays from a QB perspective - especially if you look at some of the other videos. 

Anyway, it's only a little over 13 minutes and defintely worth the watch.

 

 

Peyton and Eli are brothers. Little known fact.

 

[Mr. Scot]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

A lot of Hurney's success can easily be attributed to picking in the spots of the draft that are genuinely harder to fug up.

Yep.

Hurney was certainly capable of picking good players (hell, most of us can do that) but I said many times that the duty of a GM is to build a complete roster, not just add in some good players here and there. 

Marty was never capable of doing that, and the results showed.

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Carr was actually a great prospect. He had it all. Houston broke him. So bad that he NEVER recovered. 

Honestly always felt that's what was going on with our #1 pick QB. Hopefully he's finally getting his confidence back now. Hopefully. 

Possibly. He sustained 62 sacks in his first season but has never seen half that since. 

If it took just one season of battering to break him, well.......

[Navy_football]

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Possibly. He sustained 62 sacks in his first season but has never seen half that since. 

If it took just one season of battering to break him, well.......

Just looked it up. It was 76 his first season! He was sacked over 200 times in his first 60 games with Houston! That's pretty brutal man. And in his case, quality is even worse than quantity. He had a few hits where he was absolutely demolished. I remember feeling sorry for that dude. He took a beating almost every game. 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Just looked it up. It was 76 his first season! He was sacked over 200 times in his first 60 games with Houston! That's pretty brutal man. And in his case, quality is even worse than quantity. He had a few hits where he was absolutely demolished. I remember feeling sorry for that dude. He took a beating almost every game. 

Yeah, I haven't looked but I have to assume that 3.3 Sacks/GM has to be the record. That is insane.

[Mr. Scot]

17 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Possibly. He sustained 62 sacks in his first season but has never seen half that since. 

If it took just one season of battering to break him, well.......

The sacks were only half the story.

His early coaching was awful. I mean like Hue Jackson with the Browns level awful.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The sacks were only half the story.

His early coaching was awful. I mean like Hue Jackson with the Browns level awful.

Bryce??

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Bryce??

Carr.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Carr.

Yeah, that is certainly true.

[Navy_football]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The sacks were only half the story.

His early coaching was awful. I mean like Hue Jackson with the Browns level awful.

That oline was a friggin joke and his receivers were bad his rookie season. Think thay drafted Andre Johnson and some more offensive players his second year and things got a little better. Then Andre Johnson started getting injured, and it went back to weekly beat downs. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

Carr wasn’t gonna make it in the NFL.  Getting the crap beat out of him didn’t help but he held onto the ball too long.  People remember him in a sympathetic way because there’s this belief he was ruined. But he just wasn’t that good.