QB School - Bryce Young vs Bucs

[GoobyPls]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

you guessed completely wrong

Nah I guessed right 

[outlaw4]

16 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I watch them just to see the route concepts Canales draws up. Some are great, some have no chance of working. His offense is really hit or miss as obvious by the up and down season we are having. It explains his stalled drives the infuriated me to know end.

Same. Some play designs are actually pretty good, but Canales just doesn't strike me as an offensive guru with how some of these plays seem to not help make things easier for our offense at all. 

[MasterAwesome]

15 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I am sure its out there, thats just not my bag.  Without knowing the play call, audible, etc seems like a pointless exercise to try to point out the good or bad of a play/game

 

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I am smart enough to know what I am seeing in real time and dont need to be spoon feed after the fact

Is this not a bit contradictory?  Also surely if any of us are smart enough to evaluate what we're seeing in real time, a former NFL QB can at least manage the same.  Especially considering he's basing his analysis on hours (maybe generous?) of reviewing All-22 footage which he can play back over and over again, focusing each time on different position groups, match-ups, progressions, etc. which is simply impossible for a fan to fully assess in real time.  Unless you're actually at the game, we basically only get the QB/O-line in frame during the broadcast and even in that limited window of the field, there is simply too much happening.  I'm usually broadly focusing on Bryce, maybe peeping the footwork (or lack thereof) and just the overall pocket and whether there is any pressure coming.  I'm not able to watch every individual one-on-one o-line match-up on top of it to see who got beat, who didn't pick up a blitz, which o-lineman didn't shift to help double-team, or whatever else.

I think the truth is somewhere in between (as is almost always the case).  Knowing the play call, audible, etc. is pretty important when judging individual performances, which is why we should always take PFF grades with a grain of salt.  But yeah we can also get a pretty good overall sense of how a player is performing just from watching the game on the couch on Sundays.  I still think there's a lot of value in a review video like this.  As long as you have the bare minimum media literacy to take the interesting insights while also acknowledging inherent biases from a video like this (i.e. obviously focusing on the good over the bad).

[MasterAwesome]

5 hours ago, CRA said:

I would assume it’s a pretty simplistic math  formula.  Fans don’t want to watch detailed videos of their QB shitting the bed.  So if dudes have good games, he goes to the  good.  The entire point is to get people to watch. 
 

Yeah I mean there's a reason there are "Highlight" compilation videos all over YouTube and not "Lowlight" videos.  Although one team's highlights often come at the expense of another team's lowlights.  But that's just secondary to the actual intent.

[strato]

34 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

 

Is this not a bit contradictory?  Also surely if any of us are smart enough to evaluate what we're seeing in real time, a former NFL QB can at least manage the same.  Especially considering he's basing his analysis on hours (maybe generous?) of reviewing All-22 footage which he can play back over and over again, focusing each time on different position groups, match-ups, progressions, etc. which is simply impossible for a fan to fully assess in real time.  Unless you're actually at the game, we basically only get the QB/O-line in frame during the broadcast and even in that limited window of the field, there is simply too much happening.  I'm usually broadly focusing on Bryce, maybe peeping the footwork (or lack thereof) and just the overall pocket and whether there is any pressure coming.  I'm not able to watch every individual one-on-one o-line match-up on top of it to see who got beat, who didn't pick up a blitz, which o-lineman didn't shift to help double-team, or whatever else.

I think the truth is somewhere in between (as is almost always the case).  Knowing the play call, audible, etc. is pretty important when judging individual performances, which is why we should always take PFF grades with a grain of salt.  But yeah we can also get a pretty good overall sense of how a player is performing just from watching the game on the couch on Sundays.  I still think there's a lot of value in a review video like this.  As long as you have the bare minimum media literacy to take the interesting insights while also acknowledging inherent biases from a video like this (i.e. obviously focusing on the good over the bad).

Whoever is doing the review can still slant their interpretation but the film is the film and I definitely agree there is a lot to get out of looking at it from the overhead view that includes all 22 guys. 
We don’t get that during the games. We don’t even get consistent replays in the telecasts. The production has a guest or needs to do a promo, you don’t get a replay. 

[mav1234]

1 hour ago, MasterAwesome said:

 I'm not able to watch every individual one-on-one o-line match-up on top of it to see who got beat, who didn't pick up a blitz, which o-lineman didn't shift to help double-team, or whatever else.

This is actually why I like these videos. He'll directly comment on other players often (I don't think he did much of that in this video), explain why how what they did was good etc. 

It's true we don't know the plays, so we can't definitively say "that was executed perfectly" but the reality is that if you assume most of the players are doing their jobs on any one snap, and you've seen a lot of NFL offenses, a lot of these guys can guess what the play is. Not necessarily in a way where I take PFF grades as some holy grail, but enough that they can say, "this angle vs that is unwise given x y or z"... which is what he did in this video, so I appreciate that.