Who is actually the best team in the NFC South?

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You are what your record says you are.

-Bill Parcells

[Pantherxtreme]

45 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You might want to take a look at that Bucs roster again. It's no slouch. Definitely better top to bottom than Atlanta. 

Both are significantly better than our roster.

Brother just like with the Roseboom thing I would have to forget all that I'm seeing with my eyes to believe he's a terrible player,  likewise I would have suddenly have to disregard all visual to believe the Bucs have a better roster than the Falcons.

I saw Atlanta go into Tampa without their #1 receiver and put up over 400 yards passing, have 19 accepted penalties for over 125 yards and still put the beats on Tampa.

Nothing on Tampa scares me, I'm scared of Cousins if he gets hot, nothing yall can say would convince me to be worried about Baker Mayfield he is what he is. I'm scared of Bijan I'm not losing sleep over Bucky Irving, Pitts and London are match up problems, Mike Evans is great no doubt, and Godwin is a 3rd down killer but both are leaving their primes. 

 

Defense there shouldn't be any debate here so I want go too much into that. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Pantherxtreme

[strato]

1 hour ago, X-Clown said:

I thought wins after you’re eliminated don’t mean anything since there’s no pressure and nothing is on the line? Or is that just for our team?

Both Atl and NO have responded to QB changes. I am looking at that and what it means for their future.  NO in particular is worrisome.
 If people thinking that happen to be at odds with Bryce love, or perceived fairness to him, oh well. Call it whatever makes you feel better.  
 

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Brother just like with the Roseboom thing I would have to forget all that I'm seeing with my eyes to believe he's a terrible player,  likewise I would have suddenly have to disregard all visual to believe the Bucs have a better roster than the Falcons.

I saw Atlanta go into Tampa without their #1 receiver and put up over 400 yards passing, have 19 accepted penalties for over 125 yards and still put the beats on Tampa.

Nothing on Tampa scares me, I'm scared of Cousins if he gets hot, nothing yall can say would convince me to be worried about Baker Mayfield he is what he is. I'm scared of Bijan I'm not losing sleep over Bucky Irving, Pitts and London are match up problems, Mike Evans is great no doubt, and Godwin is a 3rd down killer but both are leaving their primes. 

 

Defense there shouldn't be any debate here so I want go too much into that. 

Yeah, I mean it's okay to be wrong just like thinking Rozebum isn't a special teams player.

I don't doubt you don't want to do a deep dive because I am pretty sure you haven't actually looked at a single depth chart to make those unit by unit comparisons.

Edited 1 hour ago by kungfoodude

[Pantherxtreme]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I mean it's okay to be wrong just like thinking Rozebum isn't a special teams player.

I don't doubt you don't want to do a deep dive because I am pretty sure you haven't actually looked at a single depth chart to make those unit by unit comparisons.

Haha trust my knowledge of football over 90% percent of this board, but that doesnt mean I'm right all the time. 

You seem to assume alot, so I'm certain you're wrong alot. 

[OldhamA]

3 hours ago, Jmac said:

Who is the best? 

This week, last week, next week?

You've got to be more specific with this schizophrenic division.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, strato said:

Both Atl and NO have responded to QB changes. I am looking at that and what it means for their future.  NO in particular is worrisome.
 If people thinking that happen to be at odds with Bryce love, or perceived fairness to him, oh well. Call it whatever makes you feel better.  
 

I don't know how much credit I would give the QB change in Atlanta. During this three game win streak Cousins has only had one game above 200 yards passing. I think it's a combination of things but less to do with the QB(technically, Penis Jr. was a statistically better QB in his 9 starts). 

Also, while people get worried about New Orleans, don't forget that they are getting less and not more talented over time. Most of their best players are currently over 30 and several are very close to retirement.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Haha trust my knowledge of football over 90% percent of this board, but that doesnt mean I'm right all the time. 

You seem to assume alot, so I'm certain you're wrong alot. 

I think your takes certainly show that you are very confidently wrong. It's not unusual for the blissfully ignorant.

[Pantherxtreme]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think your takes certainly show that you are very confidently wrong. It's not unusual for the blissfully ignorant.

Competence and confidence sometimes get confused by smart guys like you. 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Competence and confidence sometimes get confused by smart guys like you. 

I am sure you tell yourself that in the mirror every morning.

[X-Clown]

13 minutes ago, strato said:

Both Atl and NO have responded to QB changes. I am looking at that and what it means for their future.  NO in particular is worrisome.
 If people thinking that happen to be at odds with Bryce love, or perceived fairness to him, oh well. Call it whatever makes you feel better.  
 

Tyler Shough's wins are against us (a very up and down team), Tampa who is crumbling, and the Jets and Titans. He's played well but there's the very real possibility that when the lights are bright he turns into a Matt Moore, Kyle Allen, or Desmond Ridder.

I could at least see the logic in thinking NO is on the upswing, but it's not like the Falcons just all of a sudden are a contender because of the QB switch to Cousins. He's still the same guy who is up and down - and there's no telling whether he'll actually be there next year with his age/salary combo. 

My post had nothing to do with Bryce, this has been a popular refrain way back to the Fox/Rivera years when we pick up a few late season wins and it was always thought of around here as we only win when it doesn't matter and only there to screw up draft position.  

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

Tyler Shough's wins are against us (a very up and down team), Tampa who is crumbling, and the Jets and Titans. He's played well but there's the very real possibility that when the lights are bright he turns into a Matt Moore, Kyle Allen, or Desmond Ridder.

I could at least see the logic in thinking NO is on the upswing, but it's not like the Falcons just all of a sudden are a contender because of the QB switch to Cousins. He's still the same guy who is up and down - and there's no telling whether he'll actually be there next year with his age/salary combo. 

My post had nothing to do with Bryce, this has been a popular refrain way back to the Fox/Rivera years when we pick up a few late season wins and it was always thought of around here as we only win when it doesn't matter and only there to screw up draft position.  

I would think they have enough to pencil him in as the starter in 2026.

That said, hope he goes out 2025 with a dud and Atlanta romps all over them.

[Pantherxtreme]

13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am sure you tell yourself that in the mirror every morning.

Affirmations are good, just don't lie to yourself, so never tell your mirror that you know football. 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Pantherxtreme said:

Affirmations are good, just don't lie to yourself, so never tell your mirror that you know football. 

Lol. I think mentally healthy people don't generally concern themselves with being their own hype man.

But you do you, buddy.