Is this the lowest IQ “winning” team we’ve fielded?

[Panthers Fan 69]

I got news for you. Most pro football players are dumb as a box of rocks. They are just really good at said football. 

[mrcompletely11]

13 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I think if we cut Legette the average IQ of the team would go up 15 points

"you know who I like......."

[SmallAxe]

On 12/31/2025 at 8:38 AM, DeAngelo Beason said:

They're not dumb.  They just handcuffed by one of the worst starting QBs in NFL history.  The rest of the team is serviceable to good.  We just have a bum QB who is dragging the entire franchise down.  

It's not coaching.  It's not playcalling.  It's not officiating.  It's Bryce Young.  That's it.  Full stop.  We're spinning our wheels til he's gone.

I am not a Bryce fan, but I am not a hater either.  He's not the worst in NFL history, he's not even the worst starting quarterback this team has had.  Look at this list:
 

Frank Reich

Kerry Collins

Chris Weinke

Matt Lytle

Randy Fasani

Vinny Testaverde

Matt Moore

Jimmy Clausen

Brian St. Pierre

Kyle Allen

Taylor Heinicke

Teddy Bridgewater

And he has the highest completion percentage of any Panther quarterback ever. He not great. but worst in NFL history? Come on......

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carolina_Panthers_starting_quarterbacks

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

I got news for you. Most pro football players are dumb as a box of rocks. They are just really good at said football. 

I think you would find that old trope is significantly less accurate in the modern era. Don't get me wrong, you are always gonna have a chunk of dum-dums but there are a lot less of those "athletes that can't read" stories than the 80's and 90's. 

A lot of the development systems around young athletes actually require them to be considerably sharper and there is more focus on the educational aspects because not being able to survive in a formal educational environment is such a career limiting factor. I think the biggest evolution has been the improvements in the support systems around the athletes. The people around them are rarely dismissive of education anymore and a college degree now has the significance of a high school diploma. It's a rather basic component.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, SmallAxe said:

I am not a Bryce fan, but I am not a hater either.  He's not the worst in NFL history, he's not even the worst starting quarterback this team has had.  Look at this list:
 

Frank Reich

Kerry Collins

Chris Weinke

Matt Lytle

Randy Fasani

Vinny Testaverde

Matt Moore

Jimmy Clausen

Brian St. Pierre

Kyle Allen

Taylor Heinicke

Teddy Bridgewater

And he has the highest completion percentage of any Panther quarterback ever. He not great. but worst in NFL history? Come on......

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carolina_Panthers_starting_quarterbacks

Highest completion percentage ever?? Based on what??