Evero and the pass rush

[MasterAwesome]

14 minutes ago, frankw said:

Right and I think we can have a conversation about that. But even with the scheme he should still be able to muster more than 1.5 sacks right? I mean DJ Johnson played in Evero's scheme too but that didn't stop us from calling him a bust.

Scourton didn't seem to have trouble flashing.

There can be different things true at one time.

If you account for the discrepancy in snap counts, then Princely and Scourton actually had pretty similar production.

Scourton:

• 717 snaps (68%)
• 47 tackles (7 TFL)
• 5 sacks
• 15 pressures
• 1 FF

Princely:

• 222 snaps (22%) 
• 24 tackles (2 TFL)
• 1.5 sacks
• 5 pressures
• 1 FF, 1 FR

I think Scourton was simply given more opportunities to flash.  Then it goes to a more abstract argument of why Princely was not given more playing time.  But then we'd be blindly giving credence to the same guy who not only drafted DJ Johnson, but was happy to waste a roster spot and snaps on the guy for 2 seasons and some change.

[NAS]

1 minute ago, MasterAwesome said:

If you account for the discrepancy in snap counts, then Princely and Scourton actually had pretty similar production.

Scourton:

• 717 snaps (68%)
• 47 tackles (7 TFL)
• 5 sacks
• 15 pressures
• 1 FF

Princely:

• 222 snaps (22%) 
• 24 tackles (2 TFL)
• 1.5 sacks
• 5 pressures
• 1 FF, 1 FR

I think Scourton was simply given more opportunities to flash.  Then it goes to a more abstract argument of why Princely was not given more playing time.  But then we'd be blindly giving credence to the same guy who not only drafted DJ Johnson, but was happy to waste a roster spot and snaps on the guy for 2 seasons and some change.

Princely overall PFF was 47 compared to Scourton’s 68.  
Not everything shows  up in the stats.  

[frankw]

10 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

If you account for the discrepancy in snap counts, then Princely and Scourton actually had pretty similar production.

Scourton:

• 717 snaps (68%)
• 47 tackles (7 TFL)
• 5 sacks
• 15 pressures
• 1 FF

Princely:

• 222 snaps (22%) 
• 24 tackles (2 TFL)
• 1.5 sacks
• 5 pressures
• 1 FF, 1 FR

I think Scourton was simply given more opportunities to flash.  Then it goes to a more abstract argument of why Princely was not given more playing time.  But then we'd be blindly giving credence to the same guy who not only drafted DJ Johnson, but was happy to waste a roster spot and snaps on the guy for 2 seasons and some change.

Most Panthers fans seem to be in agreement that we could and should upgrade Evero. But I do think there is an aspect that differentiates Princely from Scourton beyond snap counts. Princely got humbled to a degree in his rookie season. Hopefully he takes that to heart appropriately and uses it constructively.

[MasterAwesome]

9 minutes ago, NAS said:

Princely overall PFF was 47 compared to Scourton’s 68.  
Not everything shows  up in the stats.  

I saw that, but I also saw that PFF had Scourton listed with 8 sacks which just seems wrong lol or at least everywhere else I saw had him at 5 sacks. They also had him with wayyyy more pressures than I saw elsewhere so I dunno it just seems sus.