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Major Concerns with this team…with numbers

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Canes now have 19 losses on the year. Here is the truly alarming stat. 13 of those were multiple goal loses. 9 of those were 3 goal plus losses. This team is getting blown out more than any other year under Rod.  
 

why?  Blue line is a total mess. It’s just no good with their combinations.  It pains me to say this, but they were mikes better with Burns and Orlov. They need Slavin so bad.  Health.  Size. The team is too small and has no physical play. Most forwards do not forecheck.  Worst under Rod.  Goalie play. Pretty average to sub par. PK is downright bad. It’s allowing a little over a goal a game. Worst under Rod. 
 

Team will not win a playoff round under its current group of players. It’s not constructed to do so against heavy teams.   
 

solutions.  Must get physical size by the trade deadline. Rod and Tulsky know this. That probably has to come with the 2C.  KKs size but a better scorer and meaner.  The need another physical winger.  Goalie. Either go all in on a top guy on a bad team or get average. Lastly, better defense. Need a Right shot heavy defenseman.  Yes that could mean someone’s favorite dman could sit. Looking at you Boom. 
 

thats 3-4 new guys that must be brought in for them to have a chance at a cup.  And it’s all players that are different and better than what they have.  They have the cap. KK is gone. Add 4 mill back. 
 

And then hope it’s jells unlike Mikko.  

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The good news is that we are pretty uniquely well established to address all of our needs this season.

We have $14m real cap space, and something like $40m in trade deadline cap space. Not sure exactly how that works out. But, we have the room to absorb any bad contracts. With recent rule changes regarding retention, that went into effect this season, we now have a huge advantage in the trade market. 

On top of that, while we do have obvious needs, we also have a glut of talent in certain areas that we struggle to find ice time for. We are over-stocked on scrappy talented lil-guys, strong defensively sound 3rd liners and shutdown left shot dmen.

Whether it's a package or separate deals, idk. But, one of each from Stank/Blake/Nads, Erob/Carrier/KK/Jank, and Walker/Nystrom; throw in some 1st round picks (and frankly any other prospects they want) and we should be able to come out with a 1b to pair with Bussi and either a 2c with size or a 2c and size.

 

TL/DR

We got the money, you got the stuff?

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14 hours ago, Stumpy said:

The good news is that we are pretty uniquely well established to address all of our needs this season.

We have $14m real cap space, and something like $40m in trade deadline cap space. Not sure exactly how that works out. But, we have the room to absorb any bad contracts. With recent rule changes regarding retention, that went into effect this season, we now have a huge advantage in the trade market. 

On top of that, while we do have obvious needs, we also have a glut of talent in certain areas that we struggle to find ice time for. We are over-stocked on scrappy talented lil-guys, strong defensively sound 3rd liners and shutdown left shot dmen.

Whether it's a package or separate deals, idk. But, one of each from Stank/Blake/Nads, Erob/Carrier/KK/Jank, and Walker/Nystrom; throw in some 1st round picks (and frankly any other prospects they want) and we should be able to come out with a 1b to pair with Bussi and either a 2c with size or a 2c and size.

 

TL/DR

We got the money, you got the stuff?

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The trade space allows us to use that full amount for the remainder of the season because we accumulated it with guys like miller,slavin and Jarvis missing significant time, so thats the real number we have to stay under during the regular season and that can be on our roster come post season, our post season cap space is around 20M and thats the number and thats the # the guys who lace up have to be under.

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4 hours ago, DavidEng said:

Blake needs to stay. I’m open for other trades.

I'd trade Stank out of the 3 of them if it was up to me. Just feel like Nads potential is so much higher and Blake gets better every game.

Love Stanky. But we only have room for so many small top 6 wingers.

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Nikishin & Blake aren't going anywhere. Both have big upside and are essentially still getting their feet wet in the NHL.

Trading either of them would not be a smart move.

Would I like to see Elias Petterson in Raleigh? Sure, but not at $11M AAV.

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19 hours ago, Stumpy said:

I'd trade Stank out of the 3 of them if it was up to me. Just feel like Nads potential is so much higher and Blake gets better every game.

Love Stanky. But we only have room for so many small top 6 wingers.

Nadueu will end up being better than Blake in the long term IMO, he is a PURE goal scorer and IMO is a future 30+ goal guy easy...

 

Basically what you said if I had to trade one bye stank.

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9 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

Nikishin & Blake aren't going anywhere. Both have big upside and are essentially still getting their feet wet in the NHL.

Trading either of them would not be a smart move.

Would I like to see Elias Petterson in Raleigh? Sure, but not at $11M 

I'm not High on Petterson hes a ghost in the post season....  and isnt going to help fill the physicality gap.

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10 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

Would I like to see Elias Petterson in Raleigh? Sure, but not at $11M AAV.

I'm not the biggest fan of EP. But, word is out already that Vancouver is willing to consider significant retention. It'd probably end up being closer to $6-8m per.

The talent is undeniable and at that rate, it might be worth the risk. Idk if I'd give up any major assets, though. Too many better fits out there to put all our eggs in EP's basket.

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34 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

No I’m serious. Troch would make this team better with his grit and skill. He was a favorite of mine but see nothing online. 

I'd take a two fer with him and Panarin.

Although as stated Elsewhere I think Schenn and Tuch make more sense for the post season.

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