For the Cap gurus..

[strato]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If I was a cap guru I'd be working in an NFL front office but what years of following the NFL has taught me is that where there's a will there's a way in regards to the cap.

Seems like get yourself a Loomis and you will always have deep pockets. 

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, h0llywood said:

Robert Hunt is a top 10 RG when he's healthy.

It makes no sense to have two ultra high priced OG's and Lewis is actually exceptional in run blocking and pass protection. Hunt is basically an exceptional run blocker only.

[strato]

https://overthecap.com/position/left-guard
 

Lewis is the 9th highest paid Left Guard in the league. I bet it was higher when the deal was done two years ago. 
 

https://overthecap.com/position/right-guard

Hunt #3 highest Right Guard  

There is a tab in the upper left portion of the graphic that allows looking at the different positions. 

 

[PleaseCutStewart]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If I was a cap guru I'd be working in an NFL front office but what years of following the NFL has taught me is that where there's a will there's a way in regards to the cap.

Or in the Saint's case (when they had Brees) - Dead cap and cap space don't exist...

[ProcessBlue2]

Our number for 2026 is 40,000,000. The 2025 is for this league year which we are carrying over. 
 

Yeah. There are a lot of ways to double that. Go to sport trac or over the cap and mess it with. Can restructure a few of our higher contracts into void years and convert to bonuses. Can also do the same when signing guys. Give them a bonus up front and spread it out. Trust me the Saints go into every season at like -80 million. 
 

I predict we will be in the 80-90 million range when Dan/Brandt are done.

Edited 1 hour ago by ProcessBlue2

[ProcessBlue2]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

It makes no sense to have two ultra high priced OG's and Lewis is actually exceptional in run blocking and pass protection. Hunt is basically an exceptional run blocker only.

Can extend Lewis and make that cap hit go down a good bit. Need to look at restructuring some of Brown, Horn, Moehrig, maybe Hunt. 

[mrcompletely11]

13 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Our number for 2026 is 40,000,000. The 2025 is for this league year which we are carrying over. 
 

Yeah. There are a lot of ways to double that. Go to sport trac or over the cap and mess it with. Can restructure a few of our higher contracts into void years and convert to bonuses. Can also do the same when signing guys. Give them a bonus up front and spread it out. Trust me the Saints go into every season at like -80 million. 
 

I predict we will be in the 80-90 million range when Dan/Brandt are done.

this seems logical, I just know the media is pushing dan to make a "splash" this offseason, basically going all in on 26.  For the most part Dan has pushed back (listen to his presser and interviews on fnz) so thats good he wants to build and not shoot for the moon next year.  

[Aussie Tank]

17 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

this seems logical, I just know the media is pushing dan to make a "splash" this offseason, basically going all in on 26.  For the most part Dan has pushed back (listen to his presser and interviews on fnz) so thats good he wants to build and not shoot for the moon next year.  

I can see Dan being aggressive in FA like the other years but he really values draft picks so I cant see any trades going down.

[kungfoodude]

26 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Can extend Lewis and make that cap hit go down a good bit. Need to look at restructuring some of Brown, Horn, Moehrig, maybe Hunt. 

Hunt should probably be left alone and then moved after 2026 or restructured to make that cut less cap impactful. We cannot keep paying a guy that much at RG, especially when he isn't a truly elite IOL.

Brown is definitely a candidate for some restructuring and maybe an extension. 

Horn's deal is freshly inked and it's very favorable for us. We can get out of it with fairly miminal cap implications in 2027. I wouldn't touch that one.

[strato]

21 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

this seems logical, I just know the media is pushing dan to make a "splash" this offseason, basically going all in on 26.  For the most part Dan has pushed back (listen to his presser and interviews on fnz) so thats good he wants to build and not shoot for the moon next year.  

I really liked a lot of what I saw in his presser. Someone said he was really dumb, I don’t think so. Maybe, like a lot of people, he is dumb about some stuff but I believe he knows football and defense especially. 

What I didn’t particularly want to hear was the all in on Bryce but if he is right, I can go along. We’ll see if he is right. 

[strato]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Hunt should probably be left alone and then moved after 2026 or restructured to make that cut less cap impactful. We cannot keep paying a guy that much at RG, especially when he isn't a truly elite IOL.

Brown is definitely a candidate for some restructuring and maybe an extension. 

Horn's deal is freshly inked and it's very favorable for us. We can get out of it with fairly miminal cap implications in 2027. I wouldn't touch that one.

We really could have an issue with Horn’s concussions.  I wouldn’t want to mortgage anything past what we have right now, at the moment. 

[mrcompletely11]

7 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I can see Dan being aggressive in FA like the other years but he really values draft picks so I cant see any trades going down.

to my knowledge there isnt any crown jewel guys going to be available in FA

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/early-look-at-2026-nfl-free-agency-ranking-top-50/

I dont consider Trey H a marquee name anymore.  Tyler L probably isnt leaving balt, if he does it will be pricey and not even sure if he matches with our offense, would love phillips but phillys not letting him leave, Rasheed walker (maybe) but he may be a bit expensive.

 

Like you said, build through the draft and lets not get too horny about trying to make a move in the playoffs this year