Cam "perfect" in combine interview

[rayzor]

Taking a Reid QB in the pros based on stats is about the same as taking a June Jones QB out of college; guys like Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan. They set the world on fire in a QB stat friendly system.

We're not running that system, or anything close to it. You wanna argue for Newton, I'd use someone other than Reid as a debate point.

eagles ran a spread with vick.

coryell isn't all that far off from a spread.

[Swarly]

LOL.

Michael Vick became a complete QB in one year, after a 2-year hiatus while locked up. What's exactly stopping Cam again?

Other than the bias.

lol Vick is a much better athlete than Cam and played seven seasons before he had his first GOOD passing season in his entire career.

not exactly the best comparison man.

[Mr. Scot]

eagles ran a spread with vick.

coryell isn't all that far off from a spread.

Coryell is designed to stretch the field vertically, not horizontally.

I'm sure we'll adapt elements from a lot of sources, but I wouldn't expect it to be anything close to a college type spread attack.

[rico6]

lol Vick is a much better athlete than Cam and played seven seasons before he had his first GOOD passing season in his entire career.

not exactly the best comparison man.

It wasn't even a comparison. Cam has never played a down of professional Football yet. However still, it's widely used around here that Cam can never get over his Passing deficiency because of the Offense he's used to playing.

Vick in 7 years, has never even came close to his most recent year. And he presumably completed his Offensive game in no more than 2-years.

All I stated was, that if Vick could figure out. Cam should too.

Again, this is if he's drafted or not.

[Mr. Scot]

It wasn't even a comparison. Cam has never played a down of professional Football yet. However still, it's widely used around here that Cam can never get over his Passing deficiency because of the Offense he's used to playing.

Vick in 7 years, has never even came close to his most recent year. And he presumably completed his Offensive game in no more than 2-years.

All I stated was, that if Vick could figure out. Cam should too.

Again, this is if he's drafted or not.

"Never" would be tough to predict.

But will it be tougher for him than it would if he'd played in a pro-style attack? Yeah.

Pretty hard to argue that, especially given that he struggled with what are "bread and butter" throws at the Combine.

Make no mistake. Newton is a project, and not a short-term one.

Some people are comfortable with taking a project at #1. I'm not.

[teeray]

Coryell is designed to stretch the field vertically, not horizontally.

I'm sure we'll adapt elements from a lot of sources, but I wouldn't expect it to be anything close to a college type spread attack.

I agree. But if we draft Cam and he gets thrown into the wolves too early, I hope we have the type of guy in Chud to make tweaks and adjustments to benefit what Cam does best right now.

Hopefully though he will sit a year IF we do draft him. Or at least most of the season.

[rayzor]

Coryell is designed to stretch the field vertically, not horizontally.

I'm sure we'll adapt elements from a lot of sources, but I wouldn't expect it to be anything close to a college type spread attack.

spread does both.

spread isn't a college system anymore. pats set records with it in '07 and the packers won the superbowl with it. a good few teams have been using it very productively and more will this coming year.

[Mr. Scot]

Adapting elements of a system isn't the same as changing to that system. That, plus NFL defenders are way faster than college kids.

I don't see the spread becoming the norm in the NFL anymore than I do the Wildcat (the last big trend everyone said would change the league).

Elements? Yeah, but it's not like the shotgun and multi-receiver sets are exactly new.

[teeray]

Adapting elements of a system isn't the same as changing to that system. That, plus NFL defenders are way faster than college kids.

I don't see the spread becoming the norm in the NFL anymore than I do the Wildcat (the last big trend everyone said would change the league).

Elements? Yeah, but it's not like the shotgun and multi-receiver sets are exactly new.

The Colts essentially run a spread. Not spread option like Florida or Auburn.

But I mean at this point it is hard to even call it elements of a spread because literally on nearly every single play they are spreading the field and trying to force the defense to show their coverage.

Of course you need someone like Peyton to run something like that but i mean essentially that is all the Colts do is use spread formations.

[Mr. Scot]

The Colts essentially run a spread. Not spread option like Florida or Auburn.

But I mean at this point it is hard to even call it elements of a spread because literally on nearly every single play they are spreading the field and trying to force the defense to show their coverage.

Of course you need someone like Peyton to run something like that but i mean essentially that is all the Colts do is use spread formations.

The Colts have used more shotgun in the last year or so under Caldwell. But then, they have Manning. If you don't have Manning, it's not necessarily a good idea to try to run things as if you did.

More closely related to the Panthers, pretty sure the Chargers weren't as heavy in that department. They used it some last season to cover up for protection problems as I recall, but it's historically not been Turner's SOP.

[teeray]

The Colts have used more shotgun in the last year or so under Caldwell. But then, they have Manning. If you don't have Manning, it's not necessarily a good idea to try to run things as if you did.

More closely related to the Panthers, pretty sure the Chargers weren't as heavy in that department. They used it some last season to cover up for protection problems as I recall, but it's historically not been Turner's SOP.

Yeah. You may never see a true spread in the NFL but I think it is evolving into that realm more and more.

And I actually believe a spread could work in the NFL if you had the right personnel. The only problem is that in college you bring in 30 new players a year and in the NFL you might bring in 12 new players so it is hard to revamp a roster to fit that mold. Plus the players that are there are designed for a pro system (obviously) There isn't enough turnover to change into a spread system bc it would take too long to get the proper personnel and fans and FOs aren't patient enough to make the change.

Maybe not. Just my opinion.

I might be wrong about that

[rayzor]

Adapting elements of a system isn't the same as changing to that system. That, plus NFL defenders are way faster than college kids.

I don't see the spread becoming the norm in the NFL anymore than I do the Wildcat (the last big trend everyone said would change the league).

Elements? Yeah, but it's not like the shotgun and multi-receiver sets are exactly new.

spread is more accepted than the wildcat and the pats have been using it for a few year. mcdaniels uses it in his. packers will probably start using it more seeing as how they beat the steelers D using it all game. saints have been using a bit of it as well. colts (like has been pointed out) have been using it a bit.

spread wasn't reid's SOP either, but they saw a huge talent potential and decided to move their offense around the talent. jump from a coryell to a spread or a spread hybrid wouldn't be as drastic as going from a WCO to a spread.

[rayzor]

little reading and viewing for ya...

Expect teams to study, copy Packers' plan of attack vs. Steelers pat kirwin article

Spread offense has ability to help teams in pass protectionanother pat kiwin article

QBs getting trendydiscussion between mooch, deion sanders, marshall faulk, and michael irvin

A spread offense;Brady has everyone involved ian rapaport with boston herald

Spread the news: More teams adopting wide-open scheme that helps QBsbucky brooks

N.F.L. Looks to College Game for a New Plan of Attack65 page book

The Multiple Formation Spread Offense

[Catalyst]

Interesting... hard to say what is spin and what is accurate right now.