Lmao the players have their wives crying for them now.

[ThPantherFan]

That is also their choice. Vets, Firefighters, Cops don't get drafted so they are aware of the dangers associated. FYI Cops and Firemen have huge unions that look out for them just like the players.

I have a friend that was a fire chief. He has issues with high levels of toxic metals in his body from all those fires at factories, etc. He belonged to no union. Not all areas have unions. I do understand what you are saying, it is they're choice to do the job they do.

[blackcatgrowl]

Stroupe-a-loop is dead on and you are completely dead off.

Funny how many die hard capitalists hate players for trying to make as much money as they can.

No, I think I'm pretty much dead on.

Jackofalltrades made a point that other industries and services have much harder physical tolls, make less money, and get fewer benefits, and you shot back by saying:

"Well, that's their choice, they have to live with it."

Yeah, it is. But here's where your NOT getting his point. These other workers and servicemen AREN'T bitching about it as a collective whole. The NFL players are, and now their wives are too.

Sheesh.

[Panthro]

Really? I wasn't in a union when I was a fireman or a paramedic.

My brother works for Concord Police Dept and he's not part of a union; I must be missing something.

My cousin is FDNY is in one.

http://www.ufanyc.org/

I guess I'm wrong though :cool:

[blackcatgrowl]

My cousin is FDNY is in one.

http://www.ufanyc.org/

I guess I'm wrong though :cool:

Yeah, I'd say you pretty much are. As usual.

[Panthro]

No, I think I'm pretty much dead on.

Jackofalltrades made a point that other industries and services have much harder physical tolls, make less money, and get fewer benefits, and you shot back by saying:

"Well, that's their choice, they have to live with it."

Yeah, it is. But here's where your NOT getting his point. These other workers and servicemen AREN'T bitching about it as a collective whole. The NFL players are, and now their wives are too.

Sheesh.

Well it is their choice. Comparing what vet's go through is nothing but a ploy to pull at our heart strings. They couldn't be further from being similiar.

They know the risks and the rewards. They all do.

But hey take a 20% pay cut and come into work on saturdays.

[Murph]

Each man will walk away thinking that if his knees are to give out, hopefully it happens in the next five years before his health coverage expires. And if he has to cover himself with money from his own pocket, he will hope it doesn’t break him. Insurance companies aren’t looking to cover the ten-year veteran pro football player with the pounding migraines and ALS or severe depression that could be lurking just around the corner.

She must have forgotten about the nation's new healthcare law kicking in later this decade. He can't be denied coverage

[Jackofalltrades]

My cousin is FDNY is in one.

http://www.ufanyc.org/

I guess I'm wrong though :cool:

Not everyone works for a huge metropolitan FD. The risk is the same, but I didn't even have insurance when I was there. Firefighting played a huge role in my health issues but I foot the bill and don't whine to anyone.

[Gin and Juice]

Hate to be Captain Obvious here, but what do you expect a "gold digger" to say? She is a little past her prime so jumping on a MLB or NBA athlete is kind of out of the question! She is just now standing in the welfare line now that her attributes have grown a little to old.................Im sorry, Im going to hell for that observation

[Carolina Husker]

Until the military gets million dollar contracts for deployments, patrols, combat, rescue ops, etc, then I have no sympathy. These guys peruse glory and riches, or men and women in uniform peruse freedom for us and others. How many NFL vets are sporting prosthetic limbs because theirs was blown off on foreign soil for little more than minimum wage?

What about firefighters, cops and medics who go go into highly dangerous situations everyday, not just on Sundays to the benefit of others?

I'm not admonishing the owners either, but this is what's wrong with professional sports and our culture as a whole.

Again, this sensational type of argument is easy to get people galvanized about, but the pretty glaring difference is that one is a service and one is entertainment. People willingly shell out, as a whole, billions of dollars every year to watch football. People don't pay to watch the military. It's not really a comparable argument.

[twylyght]

Again, this sensational type of argument is easy to get people galvanized about, but the pretty glaring difference is that one is a service and one is entertainment. People willingly shell out, as a whole, billions of dollars every year to watch football. People don't pay to watch the military. It's not really a comparable argument.

Rather than get wrapped up in the minutia of the analogy, I think it best to recognize the main thrust of his point that there are far more worthy people to feel sorry for as opposed to NFL veterans

[Panthro]

there are far more worthy people to feel sorry for as opposed to NFL veterans

I don't think anyone argued that. Because if that was his point I would have agreed and probably had another slice of cake.

[Carolina Husker]

Fine. But it's a pretty common argument (TEACHERS SHOULD MAKE MORE MONEY THAN BASKETBALL PLAYERS!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!) that doesn't aptly compare the situation at hand here.

The players don't want to take a pay cut just for the sake of taking one, especially if they're asked to work more than before. Not sure why there's so much hatred on this board towards them for that.

A lot of it probably stems from jealousy or a poor understanding of the situation IMO.

[Panthro]

I still think it's more jealosuy than hatred

[twylyght]

I don't think anyone argued that. Because if that was his point I would have agreed and probably had another slice of cake.

I think practically everyone argued that there are far better people to feel a plight for than NFL vets... are you really that obtuse?