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...and I have a hard time believing that a team who plans to run a vertical offense is coveting Gabbert.

I can easily see liking Gabbert more than Newton because there are so many questions about Newton... but Gabbert's skill set would seem to be a poor fit for a team planning to run a vertical offense.

I would like to see us spend the pick on Dareus and find a vet QB to fill the gap.

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...and I have a hard time believing that a team who plans to run a vertical offense is coveting Gabbert.

I can easily see liking Gabbert more than Newton because there are so many questions about Newton... but Gabbert's skill set would seem to be a poor fit for a team planning to run a vertical offense.

I would like to see us spend the pick on Dareus and find a vet QB to fill the gap.

That's a good point. Hard to imagine you would want to take the guy whose weakness is the deep ball if you want a vertical offense. The stat is he only completed 30% or so of his passes over 15 yards. He has the arm just not the accuracy

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That's a good point. Hard to imagine you would want to take the guy whose weakness is the deep ball if you want a vertical offense. The stat is he only completed 30% or so of his passes over 15 yards. He has the arm just not the accuracy

I honestly think that any interest we've shown in these QB's is a bluff meant to lure another team into a trade.

I don't think we're happy with what we've got at QB, but I doubt Hurney or Rivera thinks any of these guys are the answer... I'm fully expecting the opening day starter to be a vet that we acquire through FA or a trade, but the lockout could derail that.

Given Moore's arm strength and his experience, I wouldn't at all be shocked to see him getting the nod as the opening day starter.

Here's something else I haven't heard discussed very much: I'm assuming the Cards will probably part ways with Derek Anderson, Chud had success with Anderson when they were with the Browns, therefore... Derek Anderson may be a vet QB we target?

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I honestly think that any interest we've shown in these QB's is a bluff meant to lure another team into a trade.

I don't think we're happy with what we've got at QB, but I doubt Hurney or Rivera thinks any of these guys are the answer... I'm fully expecting the opening day starter to be a vet that we acquire through FA or a trade, but the lockout could derail that.

Given Moore's arm strength and his experience, I wouldn't at all be shocked to see him getting the nod as the opening day starter.

Here's something else I haven't heard discussed very much: I'm assuming the Cards will probably part ways with Derek Anderson, Chud had success with Anderson when they were with the Browns, therefore... Derek Anderson may be a vet QB we target?

I still think Dareus or Fairley is the way to go. And for some reason I still like Matt Moore so I wouldn't hate that

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I still think Dareus or Fairley is the way to go. And for some reason I still like Matt Moore so I wouldn't hate that

Fairley scares me, he's talented but I'm not sure about his work ethic... I think Dareus has almost as much raw talent as Fairley and is a much safer pick.

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I don't get all the hate about Gabbert in a vertical passing game. Against the best competition he faced last year he completed a higher percentage of vertical passes than Ryan Mallett. Literally the only category Mallett did better than Gabbert in, completion wise, was over 30 yards, where Gabbert just didn't attempt hardly any passes (like one a game, heh). Previous year he did, though... last year they just didn't have receivers to stretch the field.

Now, Gabbert's not the best deep threat in this draft but I think it is flat out wrong to say he can't function vertically... You do not need elite arm strength to run an AC offense, you just need the ability to stretch the field.

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I honestly think that any interest we've shown in these QB's is a bluff meant to lure another team into a trade.

I don't think we're happy with what we've got at QB, but I doubt Hurney or Rivera thinks any of these guys are the answer... I'm fully expecting the opening day starter to be a vet that we acquire through FA or a trade, but the lockout could derail that.

Given Moore's arm strength and his experience, I wouldn't at all be shocked to see him getting the nod as the opening day starter.

Here's something else I haven't heard discussed very much: I'm assuming the Cards will probably part ways with Derek Anderson, Chud had success with Anderson when they were with the Browns, therefore... Derek Anderson may be a vet QB we target?

Pray this is the case

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