Gabbert question

[TheRealDeal]

[TheRealDeal]

6'1", 230lb and too old to fight. I just shoot people these days instead of fight like younger. It is much easily and more likely to work.:D

Most times I just consider the source and ignore it. No need bringing myself down to the gutter with drunks and fools. Don't know which category you are in, from what I read likely both.

[Urrymonster]

Pre snap basically is an attempt to determine the sequence of who is more likely to be open. If the CB shows man press coverage with no safety help (S showing blitz), the WR has an advantage if it is a 1 on 1 situation and he is on the fade, for example. But the CB blitzes and the LB and S cover the first option making the presnap read a bad one, he has to know that the fade is not there, but something must be. The TE up the seam will have a LB and possibly no S help--so he becomes the second read. He is covered, however, by the other safety, and with a trailing LB. Now he knows that 2 LBs, 2 Safeties, and a blitzing CB means that his slot WR, running a bang 8, has man coverage. He is the third read and the right one. Not open? Run, throw to the outlet back, or toss it out of bounds. (Elapsed time: 3 seconds)

This doesn't even get into the chemistry between WR and QB, when the WRs change or break off routes by reading coverages. The QB has to assume the WR sees the same thing he sees and reacts accordingly. In the NFL, presnap just gives you a starting point. Not reading after the snap gives you a clipboard.

Well done.

Now realise my statement said "includes pre-snap reads", aka not restricted to.

Well done for wasting your time.

[The Other Colbert]

you guys should go fug somewhere else

[raleigh-panther]

Everyone knows I'm anti- QB with the first pick, but I was wondering what the knock on Gabbert is?

Just curious.

The knock that I have heard from every analyst, from McShay, forward, is that he lacks pocket present.

He sees pressure, but does not feel it.

Thus, under pressure which all NFL QBs have to feel before they see it, checks down or makes bad decisions.

Sounds a lot like Jimmy Clausen to me, bigger version.

[mav1234]

The thing is, Bradford had a lot of these same criticisms. The Rams devised a system to help update his mental clock to the NFL game, and it payed dividends for him. Given the right teacher, I think Gabbert will be fine in the NFL if he ends up in the right place. It is not for a lack of toughness cause pressure to make him bail on plays, he will take hits to complete passes, so I think he can do it.

[Mr. Scot]

Ya know, just as a side note, people shouldn't be putting Bradford in Canton just yet.

He was okay starting as a rookie, but to hear people talk, you'd think he set the league on fire.

[mav1234]

Ya know, just as a side note, people shouldn't be putting Bradford in Canton just yet.

He was okay starting as a rookie, but to hear people talk, you'd think he set the league on fire.

The one thing with Bradford is he showed that a quarterback can make that transition given the right coaching staff. It's yet to be seen how good he'll be, but he was at least decent last year - spread QBs have historically struggled, so this was a pretty big deal imo.

[raleigh-panther]

The thing I noticed about Bradford, and yes, I have NFL Sunday ticket and watch other teams when I'm not a BofA, he seems the leader, the players seem to respond to, and believe in him, and that, for a rookie, is pretty big leap.

Big kid physically too. He also seems unafraid.

Jimmy, ahhh, well...

[Jackofalltrades]

Is no one else offended by the use of the conjunction white n*gger?

I am, warning issued.

[frash.exe]

lol a positive step in the right direction for the plight of the white men who superficially try to assimilate into a culture they don't understand beyond the lyrics of Tha Carter III

[MattB]

Ya know, just as a side note, people shouldn't be putting Bradford in Canton just yet.

He was okay starting as a rookie, but to hear people talk, you'd think he set the league on fire.

Yeah I know so overrated.

I mean taking over a team that was 1-15 and almost making the playoffs :ack2:

The media hype machine does it again.

[Mr. Scot]

Yeah I know so overrated.

I mean taking over a team that was 1-15 and almost making the playoffs :ack2:

The media hype machine does it again.

It was the NFC West. The team that did make the playoffs had a losing record.

[Ohio]

Gabbert- I haven't seen anything other than the spread stuff.

My main point is, and it's been brought up here, is Gabbert's arm strength, but everything I've read said he has a good arm and can make ALL the throws. I know he lacks elite arm strength like Newton and Mallet but if he can make all the throws does it matter, even if we run a vertical offense?

Just curious.

Gabbert is the next Clausen, so let's stick with a 2nd year Jimmy or take a better rookie then Gabbert. He played in the Big 12, which does NOT play defense, so you NEED to question why he only had 16 tds compared to 9ints. That's not very good. He also does not go deep very much at all, we saw how that worked out for Jimmy this year when he doesn't challenge defenses down the field.