Mayock Warming to Cam Newton

[panthers55]

Believe it or not Auburns offense is not complicated to defend. Newton's speed won't be as big of a factor going against NFL Linebackers that run as fast if not faster than him.

Ether Newton fits into our system or we don't draft him. Simple as that.

Is that why they averaged 41 points a game??? It was very difficult to defend and every SEC would tell you that. They used a no huddle hurry up offense that pressured the defense all day. The goal was run a play every 15-20 seconds. Did you ever see them play????

[jtnc]

the defense stepped up big in that game and to say Newton did all the work is silly... the defense also put them there by shutting down 'Bama in the second half...

Fairley was more dominant vs Oregon than newton was... by far... and the defense as a whole really responded when it was down.

Still, Newton was extremely dominant in college, not taking that away from him... but let's recognize that he had a great team.

Not on the offensive side of the ball.

And that shows to me that Newton would be more dominant on our team with Smith and Gettis + 'double trouble' and our defense.

[micnificent28]

the defense stepped up big in that game and to say Newton did all the work is silly... the defense also put them there by shutting down 'Bama in the second half...

Fairley was more dominant vs Oregon than newton was... by far... and the defense as a whole really responded when it was down.

Still, Newton was extremely dominant in college, not taking that away from him... but let's recognize that he had a great team.

Newton accounted for all of auburns touchdowns vs bama. Yes the defense only allowed one more touchdown after they were down 21 points but, to give up 27 points is enuff to lose anygame. No defense has the right to brag about giving up 27 points in anygame.

[mav1234]

Not on the offensive side of the ball.

And that shows to me that Newton would be more dominant on our team with Smith and Gettis + 'double trouble' and our defense.

Maybe if he had Smith, Double Trouble, and Gettis in college.

In the NFL, it's a totally different ballgame.

Also, Newton's teammates weren't that bad, come on. You can't be that bad when you have 3 running backs averaging at least 6 yards a carry and each with at least 5 touchdowns... Either the offensive line is pretty good, or the backs are pretty good, or a mix of both.

[mav1234]

Newton accounted for all of auburns touchdowns vs bama. Yes the defense only allowed one more touchdown after they were down 21 points but, to give up 27 points is enuff to lose anygame. No defense has the right to brag about giving up 27 points in anygame.

How come 24 points given up in a half isn't something to brag about, but scoring 7 is?

The fact is that Auburn's defense gave up a single field goal in the second half. That was just as important to Auburn winning as Cam Newton pouring his Cammy Cam juice all over Alabama.

[teeray]

How come 24 points given up in a half isn't something to brag about, but scoring 7 is?

The fact is that Auburn's defense gave up a single field goal in the second half. That was just as important to Auburn winning as Cam Newton pouring his Cammy Cam juice all over Alabama.

People need to keep in mind that both teams had 5 weeks to prepare and theses two defensive coordinators aren't idiots. No surprise that neither team's offense was as explosive as they normally were. I made a sh*t ton of money on that under.

Having 300+ yards of offense and 2 TDs against a top ten defense nationally that had 5 weeks to prepare..... I mean let's keep it in perspective. These are the debates in which the Haters reach a little bit.

[panthers55]

the defense stepped up big in that game and to say Newton did all the work is silly... the defense also put them there by shutting down 'Bama in the second half...

Fairley was more dominant vs Oregon than newton was... by far... and the defense as a whole really responded when it was down.

Still, Newton was extremely dominant in college, not taking that away from him... but let's recognize that he had a great team.

Seriously if you stretch things any further, you are going to pull something. Newton beat Alabama almost singlehandely. In the second half he rallied the team from 24 points down. The defense was pretty porous early and if not for some fumbles by Alabama, it would have been a blow out. He threw 3 TDs and ran for another.

Put it another way, how many Alabama players are expectted to be drafted?? After Newton and Fairley, how many Auburn players are expected to be drafted??

Against Oregon Newton while injured rallied the team for the go ahead score after auburn's defense gave up a TD with 2 minutes left. He threw for 265 yards and ran for 65 more. Not exactly too shabby.

Everyone pretty agrees that the team was average at best and without newton likely wouldn't have won the SEC let alone the national championship.

[jtnc]

Jimmy Clausen was 10times a better prospect than Gabbert and has more impressing stats as well.

So, you guys are telling me if Jimmy Clausen came out this year he would have been number #1 pick material?

[mav1234]

People need to keep in mind that both teams had 5 weeks to prepare and theses two defensive coordinators aren't idiots. No surprise that neither team's offense was as explosive as they normally were. I made a sh*t ton of money on that under.

Having 300+ yards of offense and 2 TDs against a top ten defense nationally that had 5 weeks to prepare..... I mean let's keep it in perspective. These are the debates in which the Haters reach a little bit.

...talking about Bama, not Oregon.

[rico6]

Are you people really arguing about a game that happened months ago?

[teeray]

...talking about Bama, not Oregon.

Whoopsie daisy. I was gone a while.

:leaving:

[micnificent28]

How come 24 points given up in a half isn't something to brag about, but scoring 7 is?

The fact is that Auburn's defense gave up a single field goal in the second half. That was just as important to Auburn winning as Cam Newton pouring his Cammy Cam juice all over Alabama.

i see your point,the second half effort was good but a defense can't make a living asking a offense to overcome 27 points agame.

[mav1234]

Seriously if you stretch things any further, you are going to pull something. Newton beat Alabama almost singlehandely. In the second half he rallied the team from 24 points down. The defense was pretty porous early and if not for some fumbles by Alabama, it would have been a blow out. He threw 3 TDs and ran for another.

How exactly do you describe an offense that musters only 1 drive in 2 quarters? 'Cause that's what happened with Auburn. Outside of the one 80 yard TD drive, they punted 5 times, had 19 yards on 5 drives, and had maybe 2 first downs. The TD drive was great, and it was all Newton, but he and the rest of Auburn was shut down in the first half. Completely. The defense was dismantled.

That all changed in the 2nd half, when Auburn's D allowed only a FG and forced several punts. Cam Newton stole the show, but if he had done it alone, Alabama would have kept scoring - but it did not.

Put it another way, how many Alabama players are expectted to be drafted?? After Newton and Fairley, how many Auburn players are expected to be drafted??

According to CBSsports, Auburn has 20 prospects lifted on their 2011 draft prospects compared to 10 for Alabama. Now, not all of them are ranked, so I think this is kinda weird, so I looked at it a bit more closely.

They each also have 6 players that CBS thinks are top 300 prospects.

Beyond that, Alabama does have a higher "average" position ranking, but Auburn has the #1/2 QB and #1/2 DT, depending on who you ask. Fanin, Lee Zeimba, and Josh Bynes were also all talked about at Auburn's Pro Day as being good prospects. Certainly, Alabama had a better team; but I'm not trying to argue that, just that Newton had some help.

[mav1234]

i see your point,the second half effort was good but a defense can't make a living asking a offense to overcome 27 points agame.

No doubt, no doubt. I know it's seen that way, but I'm not trying to take away from Cam here, just trying to spread the love. The D got wrecked in the first half, and so did the O. Both stepped it up. Remember, Fairley's the one that caused that late first half fumble to prevent another score.

Again, Cam rocked it. But so did the D in the second half.