PFW: Carolina seeks second-round pick By Nolan Nawrocki

[Mr. Scot]

I never said this was about Cam only. Why do people keep saying that?? It might get more scrutiny bc it is Cam but doesn't change a single thing of what I have said.

Well then, out of curiosity, who else's profile do you think was unfair to them?

[teeray]

Then when Hurney calls him out Haters yell "SMOKESCREEN!!!!"

[MadHatter]

I say smokescreen with anything that Hurney does. He and Richardson have a LONG standing reputation for NEVER showing their cards.

To think that they will miraculously open up their Kimono in this case is just gullible.

[CatMan72]

Didn't answer my question.

Do they need to not be negative on every prospect, or is Cam newton the only one who's being treated unfairly?

(I can tell you there's some very personal stuff reported on Marcell Dareus, for one)

It's fine to include negative comments, the scouting report wouldn't be complete without them... but negative comments included in Cam's report seemed excessive to me, like they were really going after him.

[teeray]

I say smokescreen with anything that Hurney does. He and Richardson have a LONG standing reputation for NEVER showing their cards.

To think that they will miraculously open up their Kimono in this case is just gullible.

Not necessarily talking about you. But everyone does up until he says "we are still considering 5-7 guys". The everyone yells. "SEE I told you"

Selective hearing and I am well aware that Huggers are just as bad as anyone at this.

Like the Hurney vs Narwocki thing. If you listen closely he didn't really defend Cam against the accusations. He deflected it with an attack on Narwocki. Huggers said he defended Cam when in reality he kinda didn't. He implied it with his defensiveness but I am not sure he ever said it was bullpoo.

BTW I am copyrighting that last paragraph so you can't steal it as your own argument:p

[Millions]

Way to excessive haven't not stepped foot in a room with Young Cam to speak with him and form you're own opinion. How is it his opinion when he has admitted to not meeting Cam before? And most importantly when Hurney and others that have done so before have ripped your column to shreds. That's why people "don't like what he said" it has nothing to do with Cam don't judge a person if you don't know that person.

[Mr. Scot]

It's fine to include negative comments, the scouting report wouldn't be complete without them... but negative comments included in Cam's report seemed excessive to me, like they were really going after him.

Believe me, those are not unusual.

Clausen and Rhett Bomar got similar comments among recent quarterbacks, and there was some pretty heavy questioning of JaMarcus Russell. Also remember the "diva" criticism of Brandon LaFell last year? That was PFW too (I disagreed, and still do).

I'll ask you another way. If you were reporting on what someone said and they used words like "narcissistic con artist", would you relate it using a similar tone or try to soften it? If you decide to soften it, then are you accurately reporting what was told to you?

It's not PFW's job to make these kids look good. That's what their agents are for.

[teeray]

I would try like hell to verify it or I would print it as a question mark on his character rather than printing it as fact.

[Mr. Scot]

I would try like hell to verify it or I would print it as a question mark on his character rather than printing it as fact.

Do you actually have any idea how much research they did, or is your assumption that they didn't do enough based on the fact that they had a negative assessment of a guy you like?

[DaCityKats]

he should have included an interview with cam as part of his research.

[Mr. Scot]

he should have included an interview with cam as part of his research.

The magazine will interview different prospects as part of their coverage. For the preview though? Pretty sure they don't interview anybody directly.

Ya gotta remember, they don't have any reason to give a flaming crap what happens to any of these kids. Their job is to research and write an objective review. Whether the prospects or their people like it or not isn't really relevant.

[TheRed]

Crap like this is really unnecessary and does nothing to add to the discussion.

With all the corny elementary school "you're a Insert generic group here HUGGER!!!" comments in every thread, you gripe about this?

Lighten up. Change your tampon if necessary.

As far as this article, why even debate this for 15 pages, when did Nawrocki become our GM?. Hurney will draft who he wants to based on his opinion and that of his own scouts. Not some writer from PFW worried about everybody's smile.

[CatMan72]

Believe me, those are not unusual.

Clausen and Rhett Bomar got similar comments among recent quarterbacks, and there was some pretty heavy questioning of JaMarcus Russell. Also remember the "diva" criticism of Brandon LaFell last year? That was PFW too (I disagreed, and still do).

I'll ask you another way. If you were reporting on what someone said and they used words like "narcissistic con artist", would you relate it using a similar tone or try to soften it? If you decide to soften it, then are you accurately reporting what was told to you?

It's not PFW's job to make these kids look good. That's what their agents are for.

I would try to balance those comments with positive comments we've all heard about Cam as a person, if for no other reason then to make sure people understood I was being objective and fair.

This kind of thing happens all the time, Nawrocki has a choice as to how he frames things. I could do some research on you and write a biography about you that focused mostly on negative aspects, but would that be a fair representation of you?

[mav1234]

he should have included an interview with cam as part of his research.

And what if Cam refused the interview? He has refused a ton of interviews already by football places after the disastrous Icon/Entertainer stuff. Hell, wasn't that actually his last interview that was not directly related to the combine or pro day?