Kiper: Panthers Should Trade Down

[Catalyst]

No sh*t. Who the hell does he think we're going to find that wants the pick? If we should trade down, why would anyone else want the pick?

[mav1234]

keep in mind he still thinks Clausen's going to be good, so.

[antame]

No sh*t. Who the hell does he think we're going to find that wants the pick? If we should trade down, why would anyone else want the pick?

Following that assumption, why would anyone ever trade down in any draft?

Anyway, I never said we should trade down, I think we should take a shot with Newton. And I agree with CN that if we do trade down we ought not to drop very far.

I simply meant Newton could possibly motivate teams with high picks to make attractive offers, and he's probably the only player in this draft who could do that.

[top dawg]

After what I saw last year, I don't think Kiper will be having any company on that island anytime soon.

I want to believe in Jimmy, but I wouldn't put all my homemade wine in that pickle jar.

[antame]

I don't want to believe in Jimmy and I hope to hell the Panthers haven't wasted one damn minute thinking he might start next year.

[Mother Grabber]

I'm all for trading down for more picks, but dear god, no more trading future picks to move up for unproven players.

Isn't that exactly what we're hoping someone else will do?

[antame]

http://www.heraldonline.com/2011/04/...link=email_msg

I just read that again and I've decided I want kill Mel Kiper.

[Mother Grabber]

keep in mind he still thinks Clausen's going to be good, so.

So do plenty of other people.

[Majestic87]

I agree 100% with Kiper...:cheers2:

[CRA]

Jimmy's parent must pay Kiper.....dude is just illogcal and didn't even watch what his wonderboy did this year.

[SCP]

Kiper has a personal interest in hoping Clausen does better. He is buddies with Clausen's agent and spent all of last offseason hyping the Jimmy as the most pro-ready QB in the draft. LOL Kiper.

[countryboi]

every body is like trade down trade down.... If a jackass like kiper knows there is nothing worth picking at number 1 then what chance do the panthers have against people who really know what the're doing?

[SCP]

every body is like trade down trade down.... If a jackass like kiper knows there is nothing worth picking at number 1 then what chance do the panthers have against people who really know what the're doing?

Don't you remember? Hurney is the evil genius who was crafty enough to fool Belichek and the Patriots into trading this years 2nd round pick for Armanti Edwards.

[MadHatter]

Kiper has several valid points in his discussion of Clausen.

He was put in the absolute worst possible situation in Carolina last season. We had rookie WR's, a lame duck coach who had zero interest in having a rookie QB, the worst OC and playcalling in the league. Fox did NOTHING to try and work an offense aroudn Clausen (like the Rams did with Bradford). He was more interested in sticking it to Richardson on his way out the door.

How much of the failures at QB last season were due to Clausen's ability and how much were due to all of the other factors? That is the question.

And, none of us can realistically answer it. Yet, all of the Cam supporters want to toss a rookie QB in the trash who was forced into action before he was ready...had God Awful Coaching...etc. Yet, you want to take Cam and park him on the bench to learn....an idea that you in no way afforded Calusen.