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good fox sports article on cover 2


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yea it would, as long as the players don't let the soft spots get exploited.

yea the 2 weak points of the cover 2 is covering TEs and a power running game...tampa now has the TE and ATL has the power run game..lol

but a lot of what i have read sounds like we have the right people to make this a very good def..i will enjoy seeing the type of players we will draft.

the only thing i dont like is the small linemen...

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yea the 2 weak points of the cover 2 is covering TEs and a power running game...tampa now has the TE and ATL has the power run game..lol

but a lot of what i have read sounds like we have the right people to make this a very good def..i will enjoy seeing the type of players we will draft.

the only thing i dont like is the small linemen...

Small linemen isn't an essential in the Cover 2. That's just the way the Colts ran it for a while.

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Important.

Also can be fairly effective against a pass heavy offense like the Saints.

Good article and I agree with your point Mr. Scot. My concern about the Tampa 2 was pointed out at the end of the write-up. Since the Tampa 2 is design to stop the pass, it is particulary vulnerable against a power running game (as we demonstrated in our 2nd matchup against the Bucs).

If Meeks is allowed to run a true Tampa 2 coverage scheme in Carolina (and I have no problem with this defensive philosophy), where will this leave us in the run game with a defensive line that's in flux? The Falcons and Bucs both employ power runnning schemes. Since the scheme relies more on speed, what can be done to ensure that we our strong in our run and pass D?

I think you may have answered my question in your reply to scpanthers.

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Small linemen isn't an essential in the Cover 2. That's just the way the Colts ran it for a while.

This is true. Bill Polian seem to elude to this in the Gaston Gazette's article when Meeks was hired. He had a lot of good things to say about Meeks as a coach and a person, but more to the point, he indicated that Meeks was limited by the personnel they had. I'm sure he was referring to their defensive line, among other things. They had a very strong pass D, but their run D was suspect. If we can acquire size and athleticism on the DL, to complement the coverage scheme, our D will be tough.

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cover 2, tampa 2, 2x2, or whatever 2

it masks a weak pass rush.

with the personnel that the panthers have right now, the line can focus on the run, while the secondary can contain the pass..and even buy time for the line to rush the passer.

hello johnson and taylor. this is just what the doctor ordered.

my only knock on taylor is he was hurt a lot for a backup...i think he will still be a backup next year.

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Personnel dictates how the scheme is run. While we will certainly acquire new guys, too many of the remaining guys are too large to run the 'undersized' variant of the Cover 2 effectively.

For that reason, I don't see us going 'Tampa 2'.

The Herald is reporting that it will be a tampa 2 variant. That's from Beason himself. Said he would need the mental reps from Practice and Pre-season because of the increased responsibilities that he has in the new tampa 2 defense.

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