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Charles Johnson agrees to terms *CONFIRMED!* OP updated

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Calm down.. im having a calm convo... so all the side talk is not needed.

We are around 10 mil in cap space (not including the extra 3 mil) ... Also we could have redid contracts and cut guys (Chancey Davis and Jamaal Anderson) and got to around 30 mil under the cap...

Like Charles Johson said... We got scared... It wasnt we didnt have it or couldnt come up with it.... We didnt want to pay him that much

Also im not downing Charles Johnson... I wanted the guy to be a falcon but not for 12.5+ mil... If he ball out like he did this year thruout the contract... He is worth it but right now after just 1 great year... I wouldnt pay him that.

I get why you guys did it tho... You had the cap (had to spend money) , The guy is a good player, and a rebuilding team has to over pay to keep players or bring in FA (we had to do it in 08 with Turner.. Its just he has proved to be worth every dime now (even looks like a great deal now) but at the time we had to over pay for him (based on what he has done to the point we signed him) ...

But d*mn.... 12.5 mil

Also... We have good depth... We have been drafting for this situation... I do think we will try to resign Clabo our RT now (it was either him or Johnson)

Impressive ATL person.

For your lack of trolling and actually talking I have given you 50 swag.

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Hardly' date=' it's not hard to understand how contracts are structured if you do a little research....to think that this contract made it so we couldn't sign any other marquee free agents is asinine....[/quote']

I agree at that level but to truly understand NFL contracts is more difficult than you think.

Hell, no one knew till today that TD wasn't a FA...that's some serious poo.

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It is evident in this thread, that the majority of the fans on this site have no grasp of what a starting defensive end of his talent, is worth.

It could have been more. I was expecting higher. He got a good deal, and we're lucky to have him for the next 6 years.

Fans are just saying he has only been starting material recently which is true. When talking this kind of money no one cares about talent, we are talking about production and that is why fans bring up the 'one year' argument.

As a fan I am more happy than not, I believe he is worth that money to the organization, but he is worth that much to the panthers, not worth it in general, yet. Otherwise someone else would have offered him just a much. In reality CJ couldn't get close to that much anywhere in the NFL period.

I am exited and glad we could keep a spectacular player on defense. But I am more worried about offense however, seemingly like every off season and have been for the longest time. For once it'd be nice not to be.

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It is evident in this thread, that the majority of the fans on this site have no grasp of what a starting defensive end of his talent, is worth.

It could have been more. I was expecting higher. He got a good deal, and we're lucky to have him for the next 6 years.

I just pointed out in the other thread, in fans' minds DE production = sacks.

So, taking that into account, CJ had 10 over his first 2 years and he barely played. Then he became the starter last year and had 12. Combine that with the info someone posted earlier in the offseason about how statistically he broke down as one of the best DEs in the league in both pass rushing and run defense...

Ummm, yeah... I think a lot of folk around here should shut up and enjoy it.

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I just pointed out in the other thread, in fans' minds DE production = sacks.

So, taking that into account, CJ had 10 over his first 2 years and he barely played. Then he became the starter last year and had 12. Combine that with the info someone posted earlier in the offseason about how statistically he broke down as one of the best DEs in the league in both pass rushing and run defense...

Ummm, yeah... I think a lot of folk around here should shut up and enjoy it.

Like a lap dance?

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I have no clue why some of you people are bitching. If we let him go to Atlanta you would have all cried that Jerry and Hurney are cheap and that we're doomed for the near future on defense. It was either give him a fugton of money or watch him kill us twice a year for the next almost-decade.

And its not like he's making $12.5m this year. That isn't how contracts work. We have plenty of room to sign Cofield, Mebane, Edwards, Weddle, D-Will, TD, Anderson, Rogers, Joseph, WHOEVER.

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If Johnson god forbid does not produce he will not see all that money.If he got 30 mil guaranteed then good for him not sure how much of that will hit the cap. The numbers sound high but I'm sure it wont harm us in the long term....Try to find a DE that had his #s last year that isn't locked up. I would have given him 6 years 60 mil

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If Johnson god forbid does not produce he will not see all that money.If he got 30 mil guaranteed then good for him not sure how much of that will hit the cap. The numbers sound high but I'm sure it wont harm us in the long term....Try to find a DE that had his #s last year that isn't locked up. I would have given him 6 years 60 mil

Gantt said CJ will account for about 6-7m against our cap this year. Which leaves us with $60 more millions.

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If Johnson god forbid does not produce he will not see all that money.If he got 30 mil guaranteed then good for him not sure how much of that will hit the cap. The numbers sound high but I'm sure it wont harm us in the long term....Try to find a DE that had his #s last year that isn't locked up. I would have given him 6 years 60 mil

This is very true and I suppose it is worth overpaying him just a bit to be sure he doesn't go to ATL...

Seriously who needs to be 5 hours closer to home who you can buy your own fuging personal jet?

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