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CB's in next years Draft.


Ivan The Awesome

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I watched the "NFL Draft Analysis - 2010 Season" and other highlights videos on youtube on everyone mentioned in this thread so far and I really think the best value we could get (judging by what we've seen so far) would be to pick BPA from WR or DT (probably WR) in the 1st and pick a CB in the 2nd. CB is super deep in this draft. Would could probably get Blackmon or Jeffrey in the 1st (or that Thompson guy from Clemson if he looks to be legitimate by then) and then get Cliff Harris or Minnifield or Gilmore (in that order of preference) in the 2nd. I'm assuming Kirkpatrick gets overdrafted because of his measurables and he and Jenkins get picked in the 1st. I'd say Harris also has a good chance of going in the 1st, but if not I'd love to draft him.

Minnifield has good size, looks like he has pretty good instincts (he was sniffing out those screen passes and breaking down on them very well). He'd be a good choice in the 2nd.

Gilmore has really good size and looks like he has a bit of a nasty streak. Good at tackling low, but needs to wrap up more than just hitting low with his shoulder pads.

I think either of those guys would be very good picks in the 2nd if Kirkpatrick, Jenkins and Harris go in the 1st. Rhodes looked solid too, but I'd take Minnifield or Gilmore before him. I think the drop off in CB to the 2nd round should be much less severe than other positions. We could probably get a much better CB in the 2nd than WR or DT.

DT just doesn't look like a good class this year, so far. I think we should probably address that in FA. Go hard at the top DT in FA this year and not even look at other positions until we've gotten the best DT we can. Go WR in the 1st, CB in the 2nd, fill out o-line and just get BPA after the 2nd.

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Harris has been suspended again by UO coach Chip Kelly

Harris was cited by Eugene Police for driving with a suspended license, driving while uninsured and failure to wear a seatbelt. Harris was pulled over after being seen driving without a seatbelt by an officer assigned to traffic duty at the intersection of Hilyard Street and East Broadway near campus, according to an EPD spokeswoman.

http://www2.registerguard.com/cms/index.php/duck-football/comments/harris-cited-for-three-traffic-violations-this-afternoon/

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our CBs have picked up their game, and depending on how Hogan plays, I think our first should go towards DL/OL depending on who is available.

I think CB is still an overall team need though. Gamble isn't getting younger. If we could snag someone good in the 2nd I would like that. Depends how the draft falls.

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Yeah his size is a question mark to some but that's what makes it more impressive. Jenkins's performance last year against Green, Jones, and Jeffery who all are bigger than him, was something to watch.

Claiborne might look the part but that doesn't always equate. Not saying Morris won't be good, actually think he'll be a good pro, but rather measurables aren't always something you can point to to dismiss somebody.

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Yeah it doesn't seem like a particular DT is outshining the others. I guess maybe Thompson from Clemson. Worthy is not having the greatest of years although many saw and still do see him as the best DT.

I possibly see us taking a CB but really don't see us taking a WR. I have changed my stance on who I think is the best WR. Last year I was all over Jeffery but now the more I watch Blackmon the more I see a complete WR. Take away the receiving part, Justin Blackmon can block well for a WR.

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