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Alabama cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick

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I have heard he's supposedly pretty good and should go pretty early In the draft. I know he's big and physical and has great speed. Does anybody have any vids or any knowledge about him. I hope the panthers can get a shut down caliber corner. And he seems to be the best prospect of the draft cornerback wise.

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The majority of the people who seem to want Dre haven't even seen him play. I am a huge SEC guy and know the talent he has. But with all his physical tools and potential you'd think he'd be having outstanding performances. It's a luxury that he has the size but I am not sure I can say he is the top CB. So in that sense I believe he is a tad overrated.

I personally feel Janoris Jenkins is the best cover corner (I have seen Gilmore, Harris, Kirkpatrick, Boykin, Hosely, among others play). I posted this in the CB thread about Janoris, I believe:

In one-on-one coverage for most of the three games, he held the trio of South Carolina’s Alshon Jeffery, Georgia’s A.J. Green and Alabama’s Julio Jones to an average of 4.7 receptions for 38 yards with one combined touchdown between the three. In their other games, that trio averaged 102.5 yards on 6.3 receptions and combined for 24 touchdowns.

One of the concerns with him is his character.

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The majority of the people who seem to want Dre haven't even seen him play. I am a huge SEC guy and know the talent he has. But with all his physical tools and potential you'd think he'd be having outstanding performances. It's a luxury that he has the size but I am not sure I can say he is the top CB. So in that sense I believe he is a tad overrated.

I personally feel Janoris Jenkins is the best cover corner (I have seen Gilmore, Harris, Kirkpatrick, Boykin, Hosely, among others play). I posted this in the CB thread about Janoris, I believe:

One of the concerns with him is his character.

Co-signed. I don't know why analysts love Gilmore either. He has great size but is terrible in man-to-man coverage. I think he would make an outstanding safety because he can be a ballhawk in zone coverage and can make some devastating tackles. Just can't play man-to-man consistently.

Same goes with Kirkpatrick. I watched Alshon abuse him last year in the USC-Bama game. I mean to be fair, Alshon can make anyone look bad. But he just embarrassed Dre.

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Well I'm not a big college fan. So all I know about him is what I've researched. I know he will look like shaq compared to our corners. Seriously though he's big and he has talent. The only reason I mention Kirkpatrick is because on most boards so far he's the first corner off the boards then followed by Gilmore. But other than that I really dont know of anyone else that's really good. I just think it would go along ways with our defense over the next five years if we had a corner capable of shutting one side of the field down.

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Well I guess what I'm really asking is... Kirkapatrick gonna be a shut down corner or is he just gonna be a serviceable. If he's has the upside like people say so then I say go for it but otherwise I say we give cam another weopon with Alshon or Blackmon or Beef up the o line

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When I think of shutdown/cover corner I think of someone who can take away one side of the field or severely shut that side down. That's not what I think of when I think of Dre. Interceptions don't always equate to being a good CB, just ask Nnamdi and Reevis.

Like I said above Janoris did a great job against Alshon, Julio, and AJ.

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Jenkins can't make a tackle to save his life...he's a poor man's Asante Samuel. Great cover corner, though.

As a 'Bama fan i can tell you that Kirkpatrick was all hype before the season. The Top 10 projections were crazy cause his play on the field couldn't warrant even a Top 25 pick. He was all measurables and HS ratings...

But man! He's finally putting it together this year. He's playing like physical shutdown corner...

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Jenkins can't make a tackle to save his life...he's a poor man's Asante Samuel. Great cover corner, though.

Janoris is a great cover guy. That should be evident when he held that trio last year significantly under their averages.

To say he doesn't have the greatest of tackling skills might be a tad uninformed. He might gamble when it comes to angles and trying to make a jump on the play. That sometimes takes him out of the tackle. But I wouldn't say he can't tackle. Yes he's not overpowering like Dre but that's just because of his size. But when it comes to covering a WR man on man I'll take Janoris over Dre.

When it comes to cover skills I give the nod to Janoris, when it comes to physical attributes you have to give it to Dre.

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I'll take Tyrann Mathieu in 2 more years

in before it's pointed out he's 5'9..he's still beasting it up this year

I don't understand why he changed his number to Patrick Peterson's number. He should have kept his old number and made name for himself. He is beasting it up and has a lot of confidence. He also does a great job of jarring the ball loose.

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As a 'Bama fan i can tell you that Kirkpatrick was all hype before the season. The Top 10 projections were crazy cause his play on the field couldn't warrant even a Top 25 pick. He was all measurables and HS ratings...

Sounds a lot like Taylor Mays. I was hearing top 10 pick about him 2 years before he was drafted, then the year before his flaws started showing and he fell to the second, and now they gave up on him and traded him (I forget where to, but it probably wasn't for a 2nd round pick...)

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