Should Tebow success get under Cam's skin

[Decleater]

The wildcat was pretty effective for a season, then defenses caught up to it and it's not nearly as effective anymore... defenses will catch up to the option and force The Golden Calf of Bristol to beat them with his arm.

You don't get it dude.. the wildcat was something you use if you don't hae a good QB..

The Golden Calf of Bristol is a good GB.. the option is something ADDITIONAL you add to a conventional passing and running game..

It's an addition other teams can't match because no other QBs are as versatile as The Golden Calf of Bristol..

Cam may be the closest thing.. but he isn't as good running or passing. He just has a better offense.. but that is at the expense of his defense.. you make his defense better and his offense will get worse..

Cam and The Golden Calf of Bristol have similar tools/abilities.. it's just The Golden Calf of Bristol knows what to do with them and Cam doesn't.

[Decleater]

HAHAHA, you got to be joking!!!! ok, first let me say you are correct on the picks, BUT he has NOT and i repeat NOT proven he can pass better than Cam. as for putting the ball in tighter windows, please. he has missed wide open passes that Newton would hit in the numbers, he's not putting balls in tight windows, he either over throws or throws in the dirt and then sometimes hits a WR. he has won in the clutch, but it's usually his running that does it and not his passing, to say he's a better passer than Cam is incorrect, he is real inaccurate and the denver coaches dont even trust him to throw which is opposite of the panthers coaches. The Golden Calf of Bristol is a better runner than Cam because he has better vision.

Fox doesn't trust ANYONE to throw... ou should know that.

He knows The Golden Calf of Bristol is such a great runner and makes his runners so great he is using that ability.

The Golden Calf of Bristol's run game is what has helped the other runners AND his defense so much. It's done it so well The Golden Calf of Bristol hasn't HAD to take risk passing the ball.. when he does you see how well he can pass.. but he doesn't even have to do it then because he can run so well.. but if you really see what The Golden Calf of Bristol is doing you see the clutch great passes he makes. Cam has not shown the ability to do this.. at least not consistently.. especially since Cam has such a great offense..

[rayzor]

This thread is going to be entertaining to come back to.

i don't think there's going to be any coming back to this thread because i don't think you will ever leave it.

it's your whole purpose for being here and you are apparently obsessed with talking on a panthers forum about how The Golden Calf of Bristol is better than cam even though the only dog you have in the fight is that you worship The Golden Calf of Bristol who plays on a team that really has nothing to do with the panthers and our QB.

i wonder how many other teams fan forums you are trolling extolling the greatness of The Golden Calf of Bristol or are we the only "lucky" ones.

it's just kind of sad how much time and energy you are expending on this discussion when you have nothing to offer but your undying love for The Golden Calf of Bristol.

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The Golden Calf of Bristol has proven he can pass better than Cam guys

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PFFL is a fuging mod trolling I'm calling it

[Decleater]

People who would argue or even more sadly actually believe that The Golden Calf of Bristol is a better NFL QB now or will be at any point in the future than Cam Newton both scare me while also making me feel truly sorry for them.

The logic (or complete lack of) these people exhibit is on par with people, who in spite of overwhelming evidence, would believe that our Earth is only 6,000 years old.

Yeah.. keep sayig that.. that's what the entire media said about Kyle Orton too...

And The Golden Calf of Bristol has blown him out of the water.

The Golden Calf of Bristol had more road wins in 7 starts than Orton had in 28 starts..

And Orton had better passing numbers than Cam last season. But neither of them could win.

The Golden Calf of Bristol has his own way of doing things.. and people don't understand WHAT he is doing and how it is so efficient.. The Golden Calf of Bristol's style is about efficient play making.. and taking no risks passing.. not necessarily efficient pass completions.. If you guys were smart you would be analyzing The Golden Calf of Bristol's style of play and getting Cam to follow his lead. Cam has the tools to do it if he could figure out how to do it.

[KillerKat]

Decleater

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...Ah yes, much better

[Decleater]

i don't think there's going to be any coming back to this thread because i don't think you will ever leave it.

it's your whole purpose for being here and you are apparently obsessed with talking on a panthers forum about how The Golden Calf of Bristol is better than cam even though the only dog you have in the fight is that you worship The Golden Calf of Bristol who plays on a team that really has nothing to do with the panthers and our QB.

i wonder how many other teams fan forums you are trolling extolling the greatness of The Golden Calf of Bristol or are we the only "lucky" ones.

it's just kind of sad how much time and energy you are expending on this discussion when you have nothing to offer but your undying love for The Golden Calf of Bristol.

I thought you guys might be interested in what I know... I was curious if anyone could look beyond their fandom and see that what I am saying is true.

Also... like I said.. if anyone should be able to appreciate how great The Golden Calf of Bristol is it should be Cam fans. The Golden Calf of Bristol trained Cam... all those attributes you admire so much about Cam he got from The Golden Calf of Bristol.

It should help you appreciate The Golden Calf of Bristol.

Believe it or not I like watching Cam play. He is very entertaining because he plays a similar style to The Golden Calf of Bristol. i wish a lot more QBs played like The Golden Calf of Bristol. the NFL would be a lot more fun to watch.

My biggest concern about Cam though is mental toughness.. I could see him self destructing like Vince Young has before.

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Hey everyone what's PFFL posting? I can't see it for I have him on my ignore list.

[mav1234]

Hey everyone what's PFFL posting? I can't see it for I have him on my ignore list.

Something new and exciting, honest. ;)

[rayzor]

Also... like I said.. if anyone should be able to appreciate how great The Golden Calf of Bristol is it should be Cam fans. The Golden Calf of Bristol trained Cam... all those attributes you admire so much about Cam he got from The Golden Calf of Bristol.

wow.

unbelievable....but yet not surprising.

we simply don't see what you say as interesting aside from your obvious obsession with The Golden Calf of Bristol and trying to prove, for still some unknown reason, why you feel it's so important for panther fans to love The Golden Calf of Bristol the way that you do.

it won't happen and everything you say shows how blinded you are by The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[Seltzer]

Speaking of honesty, I honestly believe The Golden Calf of Bristol is not even remotely interested in the success of the Broncos, just the success of the The Golden Calf of Bristol brand.

For someone who is suppossedly the hardest working guy that has ever lived, why can't he become a better passer? More accurate? Make better decision? Most of The Golden Calf of Bristol's throws are SO off-base the defense can't even intercept them.

Rather than try to become a better QB for the Broncos, The Golden Calf of Bristol-lejah Nation proclaims (and The Golden Calf of Bristol himself does nothing to silence) the fanatics who proclaim the Broncos must change to fit the "unique" talents of their "Chosen-One" Quarterback.

Every other "young" QB in the league has the expectation of becoming a proficient NFL caliber passer, except The Golden Calf of Bristol. And for good reason- the other QB's want to be employed in the NFL long-term.

For the The Golden Calf of Bristol brand and supporters, long-term it doesn't matter. Being "persecuted" ultimately helps the brand sell books and paint themselves as the victims.

In my honest opinion, The Golden Calf of Bristol is the epitome of the worst elements of American society (fundamentalism, tacit racism, and elitism) combined into this akward figure that is sold as the leader of a team from the most popular sport in American society.

A pop-culture icon, who serves as the counter-culture representative to the Kardashians and their like. The figurehead for a branch of American society that desperately wants to remain culturally relevant in the 21st Century. Simply put, the George W. Bush of the NFL.

I certainly don't hate The Golden Calf of Bristol, but I do think his brand is extremely repulsive. Its mocks the very thing it professes to emulate (Christianity).

Unfortunately, as a study concluded last year, self-professed "Christians" in this country are the most ignorant group of the survey in terms of actually knowing what their beliefs entail. This is a lot of the reason I think The Golden Calf of Bristol is the perfect spokesman for the 21st Century American Christian Church.

I grew up in the Christian Church. I believe all humanity can draw inspiration and wisdom from the teachings of Jesus, who taught us to put our neighbor and greater community above ourselves.

The teachings of the brand of The Golden Calf of Bristol teach us to put ourselves first (above the team and everyone else) and then sell it as the "Will of God." That God will exalt you above all others if you publicly proclaim it enough.

Anyone who buys into that bulls**t is to be pitied. It mocks God and the people who serve him without any expectation of fame and fortune.

[rayzor]

ibtm to tinderbox.

[TrueDat]

Broncos offense was not more efficient. They just got lucky with a pick 6. When the offense doesn't have to do anything to change the stat it isn't offensive efficiency.

Dude argue however the heck you want it. Somebody still had to score the points.

That's how you measure offensive scoring efficiency and that's exactly what it comes out to be. Plus the interception is always a display of inefficiency on an offense's part. One way to help your own efficiency is not throw an interception.

The stat doesn't like. The most efficient team wins and it did. That's why you guys don't understand an efficient offense that isn't flashy but does a better job at scoring points with less yards, is a better offense. We used to be one. It goes for all teams. More efficient teams wins 99.9% of the time. John Fox understands this better than everybody. If you can win it 10-6 you do it. It just doesn't make for a very flashy offense.