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Cam's argument for ROTY

smitty_89

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Taom82 Newbie

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Your team's performance holds no sway on a personal achievement award. Dalton's stats end up being alot better because of the high level of play of his Defense. Give him a shitty defense and he shits the bed trying to play catch up. Troll elsewhere

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If Dalton had these weapons around him playing in the scheme we're in, being down by so many points due to our poor defense, he'd have thrown for 4500 yards by now and twice as many TDs.

I'm honestly disappoited in this post. You are usually so good at disguising your trolling, but really made yourself known on this one. Should have gone a tad more conservative. This post suggests Dalton would have finished the year with almost 6,000 passing yards, and that is obviously an implausible amount for even the dumbest of fans. Disappointing TRD, you're regressing. Not to mention, you literally JUST made a post stating wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a hypothetical world, to only then turn around and make a hypothetical statement. Poor form.

Oh. And Dalton would never survive in an offense that asked him to throw down the field consistently. Just to add something worthwhile to this post.

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You don't think that me pointing out we don't live in a hypothetical world then making a dumb hypothetical post, like everyone here does with Cam and Dalton because all Dalton does is win, is in any way making fun of you guys?

The point, since you are a little slow, is you can say anything you want in a hypothetical and it holds no weight because it can't be proved.

"If Paul Pierce was on the Lakers, he'd have 7 rings."

That is one of my buddy's favorites. The Huddle favorite is "If Cam was in Dalton's situation, they'd be undefeated and Dalton would be looking for a new job."

All we know is Dalton wins and Cam puts up flashy numbers.

Dalton's offense is more conservative, Cam's is wide open and flashy.

Dalton's team is in the playoff hunt, Cam is not.

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All we "know" about these players is what they've shown us in their brief career. What they've shown us, certainly suggests that if Cam were playing on the Bengals he would have a better record. It's not so much a hypothetical as it is an observation. If you don't think Cam having a more complete team would be advantageous to him, I suggest you reevaluate your percieved knowledge of the game. He may not have the stats he does now, because he wouldn't be asked to do as much-but he certainly would have the wins.

You seem to be under the impression Dalton is doing something Cam cannot, in spite of all evidence to the contrary.

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If Dalton had these weapons around him playing in the scheme we're in, being down by so many points due to our poor defense, he'd have thrown for 4500 yards by now and twice as many TDs.

Good god, why you choose to remain here and why the mods choose to let you do so is well beyond any rational comprehension.

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You don't think that me pointing out we don't live in a hypothetical world then making a dumb hypothetical post, like everyone here does with Cam and Dalton because all Dalton does is win, is in any way making fun of you guys?

Ahhhhhh... now I get it.

How you doin', Jonah?

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How about this......if you truly want to argue that a teams performance bears weight on selecting OROY, the Derek Sherrod or Randall Cobb should be the only two talked about. After all, went from being almost out of playoff picture to undefeated over the course of a year and couple rookies.???????????

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