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Team Chemistry


Kevin Greene

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Team Chemistry, better or worse without Julius Peppers on the roster?

We've seen the Panthers ship Kris Jenkins out of town for having the audacity to criticize his team mates heart and desire, as well as weight problems etc. His play on the field however was Pro Bowl worthy no doubt. Irregardless the Panthers FO felt it best to move Jenkins to greener pastures. Today they still struggle to place a player with his talent at the DT position.

Julius Peppers .

We all know this off season's well chronicled soap opera.

With the pre-announced demand to be traded if Franchise tagged, unfulfilled potential claims, Franchise tag battle and ensuing hand cuffing of the Panther FO as this works it's way to fruition do the Panthers want Peppers back on the roster?

Does the FO believe team chemistry will be better without Peppers as they did with Jenkins and move him eventually despite the cost/loss?

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I really think Kemo would step up to be the leader of the line. As far as team chemistry it depends on Peppers. Jenkins was questioning the defense his last year here saying they had no heart. I dont think Peppers will do that I think if he has to stay this year he will do his job. He doesnt seem like a person that would badmouth or pull the stuff Jenkins did. But I would expect the Panthers to move him next offseason and just take what they can for him.

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Peppers was voted captain by his teammates and every Panther I've seen interviewed said they really want this guy back. Any problems there are with the FO, not with his teammates.

Agreed. All these guys know it's just business. And on the d-line, I'd assume that pretty much all of them love Pep since he often takes up two blockers and lets these other guys get more one-on-one. If he's gone, it's not going to be as easy for them to get to the QB or wrap up a runner.

Suppose a coworker says that he really wants to work for a different firm - a competitor - where he thinks he has a better shot to use his talents. Suppose that he then, for whatever reason, doesn't take or doesn't get offered the other job. Does everyone at your office now hate this guy? Probably not.

Even further, if we can get past a team member breaking another team member's face, then I think we can get past a team member wanting to be traded. Look around the league. High profile players demand trades all the time. In the majority of the cases, I don't think it messes up team chemistry.

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Let's face it...Peppers isn't the sharpest tool in the drawer...Beason is. Why would the D-line need a leader necessarily. We don't look to the Ravens and say...well...Lewis is the leader of the LBs...not the D-line.

Peppers didn't get the offers because other teams see what we complain about at times...and if we were wrong...the tape would prove us wrong.

I like Peppers. Wife has his jersey, but I don't ever see him as being a leader. He's a foot soldier. If he's unhappy with FO trying to push him into a leadership role...get over it...it should be looked on as more of an honor than a burden. But if he's NOT capable of doing this...just go to management and say that you're a follower...a big one...not a leader. Most wouldn't see a problem with this. Peppers has been given a LOT of leeway here, a LOT of opportunities, and a lot of slack (taking plays off). I think he needs to take some plays off, but not on the field doing it. Get the young guys in there and Donovan McNabb (benching last season) his ass into really wanting to get back out there and do what he does best.

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Peppers was voted captain by his teammates and every Panther I've seen interviewed said they really want this guy back. Any problems there are with the FO, not with his teammates.

^^ This. It's been in all the papers, doesn't anyone read anymore?...

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