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rico6 Grand Master

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Amini passed on the rusher, probably a formation fug up on his part.

Kalil got abused.

Hangman got hanged.

And Gross was grossly abused as well.

Ironically Bell was the only one that did his job, but I do agree that the play simply looked like it was an entire miscommunication and just not executed.

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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They looked awful as a whole yesterday, and that sucks to have to say :(

Gross has been declining a little each of the past few years. He's still plenty good, but he's on the downside of his career. He could pretty easily hit a wall here at some point, though I hope not.

Silatolu looked like a rookie from a small school, which shouldn't be a major surprise. Still plenty of upside there though.

Kalil is likely the best lineman we have at this point, though he can't do it by himself. And both he and Gross had to try and cover for Silatolu sometimes yesterday. That'll likely continue at least for a little while.

Hangartner? Even when he was at his best, I was never a big fan of him as a starter. His best role is as a utility backup for the interior. As a starter? He gets no push in the run game and does his best pass blocking by basically just getting in the way. hate to say it, but minus a huge imrovement next week, I've gotta call from him to go back to backup status.

And Bell? Love his effort, but would like him better playing inside.Course then you've gotta put someone else at right tackle. If I have to pick from what's on the team, I guess I go with Bruce "Ash" Campbell.

Overall...Oy :(

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The way the offensive line played sunday. I like absolutely no one on it. Last year it was a sh*tty defensive line. This year it's this on offense. The game is won in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I don't care if we had 3 Steve Smith's on this team, with Walter Payton in the backfield. If we can't protect our QB, and open holes, we will not win many games. I don't know what the coaching staff is going to do but we have to do something, or it's going to be a long painful season. Fug our O-line right now...

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So what's available as far as outside options?

Quick look at the scrap heap shows names like Chad Clifton, Tony Pashos, Kareem McKenzie, Stacy Andrews and Marcus McNeill. All guys who've had their moments but who are generally unemployed for a reason (mostly health concerns). Even if you pick them up and they play at a decent level, how long do they last?

Trade would be an idea, but to get something worth having you generally have to give up something that's worth keeping. On that front, there are a couple of older Carolina boys who have started in the past and might like the chance to start again but who are backups for now. I'm referring to Lumberton native Sean Locklear with the Giants and ECU alum Guy Whimper with the Jaguars.

I suppose you could also go for a guy still trying to prove themselves like Oniel Cousins (Browns) or Byron Stingily (Titans) but they might cost more to acquire. And to be honest, the whole idea seems unlikely anyway.

Ultimately, if there are any moves made, they'll probably just be shuffling guys we already have,

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I've never liked Kalil as a pass blocker, and having a rookie from a small school beside him is making matters worse. Hangarter is probably the biggest problem because not only is he below average in pass blocking, he's also not strong enough to be all that effective in the run game either.

The season isn't lost yet (well duh), but we need to make a move quickly to fix some of the o-line problems. Silatolu needs to continue to start imo, and even though he's making mistakes he should improve each week with Gross and Kalil flanking him. Hangarter has maxed out his potential, and he simply doesn't have the power to start in the NFL and make an impact. He's simply out there taking a beating and not contributing much. I would bench Hangman, and replace him with OT Bruce Campbell. Even with some mental mistakes from Campbell, the sheer increase in size and strength alone is worth the change. We need more violence and power on the o-line. Here is BIG HEAVY Bruce Campbell:

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After re-watching the game, Gross and Bell did a pretty good job. All of our interior linemen got beat pretty bad though. Even with all of that being said, the difference in the game, without a doubt, was that blocked punt.

I agree, most of the pressure was between the guards. As bad as the punt was, our horb oline put us in terrible second and longs all game. The punt was detrimental, but our defense put us in great positions the entire second half excluding the very last possession. Our goalline defense has been freaking stout. Our offense let us down and it begins with the oline.

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