To put our suckyness into perspective

[Awesomeness!!]

In John Foxes first year, Rodney Peete was the starting QB, and we started 3-0. This coming off an awful 1-15 season, and Fox had the same players mind you. We ended up 7-9, winning 4 out of our last 5. In his season year, Fox went to CAREER BACKUP JAKE DELHOMME and started 5-0, and of course, ended up a John Kasey kick away from winning a Super Bowl.

Ron Rivera punted the ball on a 4th an 1 from the 45 with a 6'6 260 QB that would have won the game.

[Argus Plexus]

Big deal. Everyone needs to stop pining for the glory days.

[usmcpanthers]

[Sam Mills Fan]

Ron Rivera has, by far, the worst win percentage through 21 games of any Panthers head coach ever. Even a lot worse than George Seifert.

[davos]

7 wins in 21 games

[Awesomeness!!]

Ron Rivera has, by far, the worst win percentage through 21 games of any Panthers head coach ever. Even a lot worse than George Seifert.

So and this is interesting because THIS team is way better than any team John Fox ever had here, and he won.

[Snake]

So and this is interesting because THIS team is way better than any team John Fox ever had here, and he won.

Offence is but the defense is not.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

So and this is interesting because THIS team is way better than any team John Fox ever had here, and he won.

compare fox's 2002 and 2003 defenses to ours

really, go ahead

[Awesomeness!!]

Offence is but the defense is not.

The only year our defense was actually top tier was 2003 when we everybody on the line was a stud and our secondary actually belonged in the NFL. Every year after that we had a lot of injuries, and it was never really that consistent, and a lot of patch work and good coaching went into our decent defense. I agree on the offense.

[X-Clown]

2002 we had the 2nd best defense in the league, when del rio was the coordinator

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

john fox has also won exactly 1 more game than we have this season.

peyton manning is his quarterback by the way.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

2002 we had the 2nd best defense in the league, when del rio was the coordinator

we fielded an elite defense in 2005 too.

2006 we were also very, very talented on paper. like position by position possibly the best defense in the league talented.

[Snake]

The only year our defense was actually top tier was 2003 when we everybody on the line was a stud and our secondary actually belonged in the NFL. Every year after that we had a lot of injuries, and it was never really that consistent, and a lot of patch work and good coaching went into our decent defense. I agree on the offense.

Say what you want about Fox but when he was allowed to he fielded a good defense. Not a great one but itwas simple and would take advantage of the other teams mistakes. The rest of his coaching flat out sucked though.

[CRA]

So and this is interesting because THIS team is way better than any team John Fox ever had here, and he won.

lol....that simply isn't true.

Fox has some better teams. Don't sleep on how great defensively some of his early teams were up front. We were the NYG's back in the day....hands down best DL in the NFL. Some of those also featured damn good special teams to go with it.

2003 > 2012. Don't let the video game offense fool you. Thay team was flat out built to play in 2003 with the rules in place