Fair criticism of Cam.....but

[footballisasport]

He did more than mope.There is a line between being frustrated over a loss and throwing people under the bus.He needs to stop it.This train wreck is bad enough without players making it worse.

So now Cam has thrown someone under the bus...Wow Denial do run deep with you folks.

Here is some of you in a nutshell: I know my team sucks, but it's all Cam's fault.

[footballisasport]

I'm all for Cam calling people out, but he has to tighten his poo up like a drum before he lets loose on someone else. He doesn't have enough of a track record of consistent, prolonged success to be calling anyone out without being most critical of himself first. Yes, the play calling has been sub par, but he is the one throwing picks, forcing balls into coverage, missing open receivers when he does and does not throw to them, and using shotty mechanics at times. He needs to refine his game, and, more importantly, his decision making. A lot of times, you have to take what defenses give you. When you are a QB in the NFL, patience really is a virtue.

Your post sounds like you're making really bad excuses for the fact that you know Cam was right.

I said it before, the reflection of the fans of some teams tend to show the maturity of the team itself. Some of you expect Cam to be a leader but don't want him to say anything because he's not perfect or fully seasoned..SERIOUSLY?

Let me guess, you've been listening to the talking heads in the media.

I remember one day when the Jags were playing a televised game last season, Blaine Gabbert got into one of his receivers face. Both the media and fans applauded him and said that's the makings of a leader. I don't recall anyone accusing him of throwing anyone under the bus. Instead they said he was right because he needs his team to step up. This is the same guy who ducked from invisible defenders and missed open receivers. But I guess since the media is making excuses for his game and blaming the team for his weaknesses, it's okay.

[footballisasport]

I think it's pretty bad that no one can expect an adult, and leader of the team, to act.like an adult, and said leader..without others making up excuses for Cam, or mentioning other team problems.

No one is saying we don't like Cam.

No one is saying Cam should have arrived by now.

We do expect him to handle certain things better than he is.

It does cause issues in the locker room, whether you care to entertain that thought or.not.

I know this, until Cam shows more confidence, and being even keeled during the game, he'll never grow to be the qb that we invision him to be, and need him to be.

The positive is, he still has plenty of time to get better.

I just hope he doesn't go the Vince Young route.

IT CLEAR MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY PUT HIM THERE, THANKS TO THE MEDIA.

[footballisasport]

It is the same as the sweetheart comment. People are like you just don't call a woman sweetheart. You do in the South. A 23 year old man raised in Georgia may still think that it is ok. They have combed this over with a "fine tooth" and made it seem like he is T.O.

Because they have singled out Cam as the next player with the "bad attitude" that they need to keep and EYE on. It's becoming quite a pattern of lately. Even worst, are the folks on here who are so quick to condone the behavior of those in the media, by handing Cam over to be slaughtered by the media so they won't have to deal with the real issues of this team.

I will not kid myself. The nonstop attack and scrutinyof Cam seems to be masking some serious racism. Especially when placed in a bigger picture. What did the kid say that was so offensive? What has Cam done that makes him immature? Why he is asked to be a leader and not allowed lead? Why isn't any of you folks demanding more from the VETS and Captains on your team but expect a whole lot from Cam?

All this cry about Cam being so "immature" is nothing more than a cover up for we see this kid as nothing more than a ***** who is suppose to simply show up; shut up; play mistake free football, and lead our pathetic team to wins every week so we can be happy. You label his every move and being immature, then tell him he needs to "fix" it. REALLY?

There I said it. This ish with you guys and Cam is getting way out of control. I can bet you the farm that if it was Luck who made the comment, both the media and most of you would have applauded it..And I can bet you wouldn't be trying to turn everything he does into him being immature.

[footballisasport]

It is clear that you are frustrated about the way some people in the press and on this forum are treating Cam.

The press is a double edge sword, without them football would still be played by amateurs in half empty college stands.

Also, this organization was one big hot steaming mess, long before Cam arrived on the scene. So, I really don't think most people here or in the press blame Cam for the teams overall fortunes.

On the other hand, Cam does not shy away from the public spotlight. Mimicking Superman gains attention, raises expectations and encourages comparisons to superheros. A difficult standard for any mortal to achieve.

In the many decades I have watched the NFL, I honestly can't recall a single QB of any significance that hasn't been criticized in the press and by his team's fans. Often without justification.

Cam is clearly a rare talent and the Panthers are lucky to have him, but he will never be perfect or above criticism, not as long as he remains mortal like you and I.

You treat Cam as if he's wrong for being himself and having fun. You want to correct every little silly thing that you or the media find wrong with him, while ignoring the real concerns of this team. Why such a militant attitude towards him?

I know why the media treats him the way they do but what gives with you fans?

[jarhead]

So now Cam has thrown someone under the bus...Wow Denial do run deep with you folks.

Here is some of you in a nutshell: I know my team sucks, but it's all Cam's fault.

He threw his coaches under the bus and if you really cared about the guy you would encourage him to stop.He does nothing but bring negative attention to himself by doing it.That is not his job.

[footballisasport]

He threw his coaches under the bus and if you really cared about the guy you would encourage him to stop.He does nothing but bring negative attention to himself by doing it.That is not his job.

LOL..Wasnt' you folks throwing the coaches under the bus? You simply need to stop it.

You need to snap out of it. Cam isn't bring negative attention unto himself. You are because you're feeding the trolls in the media when you sit and encourage their silliness. Cam is doing what you folks asked him to do but since the media is ripping him, and you're to much of a coward to stand up for him, you pile on.

Here is an FYI, EVERYONE INCLUDING THOSE IN THE MEDIA SEE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS TEAM. But they much rarther go after Cam because they know many of you will play along.

Your team has become the joke of the NFL and all you folks do is join the media with their constant criticizing of every silly thing they don't like about your QB. You're focus should be on trying to fix this team but instead it's on nitpicking everything your QB says and does. Sounds real mature to me.

Not only do I see a bunch of cowards for fans but I also see folks who seem to love to hide the weaknesses of their team behind the QB.

[jarhead]

LOL..Wasnt' you folks throwing the coaches under the bus? You simply need to stop it.

You need to snap out of it. Cam isn't bring negative attention unto himself. You are because you're feeding the trolls in the media when you sit and encourage their silliness. Cam is doing what you folks asked him to do but since the media is ripping him, and you're to much of a coward to stand up for him, you pile on.

Here is an FYI, EVERYONE INCLUDING THOSE IN THE MEDIA SEE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS TEAM. But they much rarther go after Cam because they know many of you will play along.

Your team has become the joke of the NFL and all you folks do is join the media with their constant criticizing of every silly thing they don't like about your QB. You're focus should be on trying to fix this team but instead it's on nitpicking everything your QB says and does. Sounds real mature to me.

Not only do I see a bunch of cowards for fans but I also see folks who seem to love to hide the weaknesses of their team behind the QB.

First why do you care you are a Giants/Jets fan.Second the suggestion for Cam to back off in the media is to protect him not pile on. No where have you read where I am criticizing Cam or feel the demise of the team is on him alone.He is a second year QB and needs to improve just like Luke is a first year player and needs to improve.Its pretty dam obvious that the coaching sucks.I am glad we selected Cam and feel he has a promising career.

[Who Said What?]

Because they have singled out Cam as the next player with the "bad attitude" that they need to keep and EYE on. It's becoming quite a pattern of lately. Even worst, are the folks on here who are so quick to condone the behavior of those in the media, by handing Cam over to be slaughtered by the media so they won't have to deal with the real issues of this team.

I will not kid myself. The nonstop attack and scrutinyof Cam seems to be masking some serious racism. Especially when placed in a bigger picture. What did the kid say that was so offensive? What has Cam done that makes him immature? Why he is asked to be a leader and not allowed lead? Why isn't any of you folks demanding more from the VETS and Captains on your team but expect a whole lot from Cam?

All this cry about Cam being so "immature" is nothing more than a cover up for we see this kid as nothing more than a ***** who is suppose to simply show up; shut up; play mistake free football, and lead our pathetic team to wins every week so we can be happy. You label his every move and being immature, then tell him he needs to "fix" it. REALLY?

There I said it. This ish with you guys and Cam is getting way out of control. I can bet you the farm that if it was Luck who made the comment, both the media and most of you would have applauded it..And I can bet you wouldn't be trying to turn everything he does into him being immature.

The thing that angers me the most is that Rivera and Chud sit back and let him take all of this heat. They don't limit his exposure or anything. Rivera even dumps on him and it is ridiculous. Do you remember the press conference where Rivera said Cam is pressing? It is all on his back and that is not right. I think it is funny how they easily forget about immature Peyton and RIvers. Peyton said he wished his O-line could block after a loss and then said their kicker lost the game another time. I just hope Cam doesn't let it get to him mentally like it did some former players.

[pantherclaw]

IT CLEAR MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY PUT HIM THERE, THANKS TO THE MEDIA.

who gives a fug what the media thinks?

I don't.

I've been a football fan for well over 30 years. I develope my own opinion based on what i see.

The media is a joke.

You need to get a grip. Seriously.

[top dawg]

Your post sounds like you're making really bad excuses for the fact that you know Cam was right.

I said it before, the reflection of the fans of some teams tend to show the maturity of the team itself. Some of you expect Cam to be a leader but don't want him to say anything because he's not perfect or fully seasoned..SERIOUSLY?

Let me guess, you've been listening to the talking heads in the media.

I remember one day when the Jags were playing a televised game last season, Blaine Gabbert got into one of his receivers face. Both the media and fans applauded him and said that's the makings of a leader. I don't recall anyone accusing him of throwing anyone under the bus. Instead they said he was right because he needs his team to step up. This is the same guy who ducked from invisible defenders and missed open receivers. But I guess since the media is making excuses for his game and blaming the team for his weaknesses, it's okay.

No, that's not what I said. I said that he shouldn't be critical of anyone else, if he is not going to criticize his own failings in the same breath.

Like it or not, the QB position in the NFL is about as high a profile position in all the world of sports. As such, it comes with a certain amount of responsibility and professional decorum. Cam is the man, so he has to play the part---on the field, and off. I don't expect Cam to be perfect, but I do expect for him to learn from his mistakes---on the field, and off. There is a learning curve to be sure, but Cam is gonna have to realize that he needs to focus on what he needs to do to improve without adding to the confusion by opening a can of worms out in the public. I would prefer that he keep his consternation private and open up a can of whoop-ass on the field.

BTW, I am not one to listen to talking heads. I pretty much develop my own opinions from experience and/or observation. I could care less what the media says because---rightly or wrongly---I have the hubris to believe that as a fan who follows the team with a passion, I know a whole helluva lot more about the team than most of them ever will because they follow the Panthers (among others) from a distance.

[iamhubby1]

LOL..Wasnt' you folks throwing the coaches under the bus? You simply need to stop it.

Not only do I see a bunch of cowards for fans but I also see folks who seem to love to hide the weaknesses of their team behind the QB.

Dude, you are really milking this media angle.

So fans of a football team are not allowed to have their own opinions? Everyone is lead by the media? Did you learn that at school? Or did you read it somewhere?

You have no problem speaking your mind. Media boy. Let us Panther fans do the same.

[Starscream]

Who fugging cares if Cam mopes. Let the damn kid mope if he wants. Tom Brady is fugging thirty something and I don't recall him all smiles when his danm team loses. Your damn team is a mess and all you folks are concerned about is the every dumb ish the media sit and make up about your QB.

FYI, your FUGGING TEAM isn't 1-5 because Cam mopes or sit with a fugging towel on his head nor don't smile during his presser. FUGGING BUY A CLUE.

I swear ESPN and others must come to this site and see how you folks behave towards Cam. You seriously make their job easy.

We're a small market fanbase and the national media has picked up on us the past two years. Most of us small market fans don't know how to react to all the National attention all of a sudden. It's a learning curve for us as fans as well as the team in getting constant national attention. :D

Pats fans are used to it, we are not.

[theyhateme45]

While there's plenty of fair criticism that can be lobbed Hurney's way following Carolina's 1-5 start, it's still a stunning reaction in light that Hurney helped bring a franchise quarterback to a team that has never really had one just 18 months ago.

Actually I will also disagree with that part of the article... I don't give Hurney credit for using the #1 pick on a QB when you have Jimmy Clausen on the worst team... I will actually credit Cam as a result of JR cleaning house and letting talent go for Fox lame duck year.

Also while the criticism of Cam post game might be fair, I fail to see the relevance. As long as Cam has the respect of the locker room or his offense nothing else really matters. Press conferences, attitudes, and words don't win or lose games... It's about play on the field, preparation and game time execution. Anything else is one of those things the media puts too much stock into.