Real reason we suck....more evidence

[CRA]

Coaching. Chud and Ron.

12 games in.

Carolina RBs have lead the team in rushing in a pathetic 5 games.

Some perspective on how pathetic that is.....

Even when Mike Vick set a NFL record and went for 1000 rushing yards a RB lead his team in rushing in 7 of those first 12 (more than half). Cam isn't on pace nor trying to do something crazy on the ground.....sad, really sad. We give Cam less help than any QB in the NFL on the ground and we have completely controlled and done that to ourselves

That limits Cam and our D. Fug those guys and there lazy 2012 "Well we have Cam mindset, he can do it all and we don't need to help".

[tiger7_88]

I think you are letting Sean McDermott off the hook too easily.

[Jackofalltrades]

Making Quinn look like the GOAT QB didn't help...neither did letting Charles run wild.

Yep, it's all on Chud.

[CRA]

I think you are letting Sean McDermott off the hook too easily.

No, that is the big picture reason. McD's D hasn't been a consistant theme. They were the main reason TODAY. One game or two game hiccups happen.

What I mentioned is an every week theme of the season.

D has put is in position to win many this year with average O. Really only 3 games have they been bad enough they made winning tough to do. Today was one.....very solid outside those 2 all things considered

[Salvo]

Like we need more evidence...

[BBQ&Beer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we burn some timeouts early in the 2nd half?

[tiger7_88]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we burn some timeouts early in the 2nd half?

We burned one in the 3rd quarter to save us from a delay of game.

The other two were burned due to defensive injuries inside of two minutes.

[BBQ&Beer]

We burned one in the 3rd quarter to save us from a delay of game.

The other two were burned due to defensive injuries inside of two minutes.

Ah, ok. I pretty much get all of the info from the official thread & the meltdowns can make hard to figure out what happened.

[CRA]

Making Quinn look like the GOAT QB didn't help...neither did letting Charles run wild.

Yep, it's all on Chud.

My post is big picture. Not KC specific. Yes his D was bad today and last week with Ron going down.....the several consecutive weeks before that?

Average O...and that D played good enough for us not to be sitting in a losing record today. We didn't have average O. Difference the last couple games is Cam is able to be a one man show against weak teams.

[BigSyke]

defense all around sucks(surprised that the run d is bad) and cam needs maybe another deep threat and lt to hold the pocket against better teams.

[CRA]

defense all around sucks(surprised that the run d is bad) and cam needs maybe another deep threat and lt to hold the pocket against better teams.

But again, this isn't a KC post.

D only got bad the last 2 weeks.....when we lost our DT. That spot impacts a lot when you insert the 2011 hot mess DTs. Flood gates are open and hurts LB play.

From Beason going down through Edwards going out.....they didn't suck. They were above average.

[rayzor]

defense gave quinn a cushion all game. it's almost like they were trying to give the chiefs the game.

players were soft. the Dline played like crap. the play calling was soft.

oh...and rivera...crennell, the man whose head you can see from outer space, just let you know that it's ok to go for it on 4th and 1, you pansy.

i'm tired of bad soft coaching.

i'm tired of defensive minded coaches who play it safe.

if we hire another DC for a coach i'm probably quitting. i'm just tired of soft, risk averse, football.

it's time this team grew a set.

[4Corners]

I'm stil gonna watch the games and cheer for my team - but It's officially college basketball season

[MaineManPanther]

Lack of rushing game has been a big reason. But wether the leading rusher is a RB or not is moot. As long as our designed runs are successful it forces the defense to focus on it. Which helps Newton.

Assume Newton had five yards less and Williams five yards more, does the outcome or really anything change? For once our running game was not the big reason we lost