Panthers/Chargers have mirror image frustrations

[Who Said What?]

http://www.charlotte...ave-mirror.html

I read this article on the issues facing both teams and I thought to myself.

If Rivera talks with Norv so much and coached under him, no wonder we mirror their mediocrity. Norv Turner has coached there five seasons and always underachieved with serious talent. Think about how many years they went 0-4 or 1-5, to start the season. This season they started off hot only to sink back into ineffective execution. Norv Turner has always had up and down facets of the team(i.e offense, defense, special teams). One is up while another is down. He has never put his foot down with players and has had subsequent discipline problems. He does not defend his players in the media. He was a great coordinator, but having everything on his shoulders has always seemed to be too much.

For those who are thinking that we should give Rivera another year, I say look at San Diego and ask yourself if that shite show is what you want our team to look like. I feel like if JR gives Rivera more years, his tenure will mirror Norv's in SanDiego because he coaches and handles situations just like Norv.

[Growl]

This is why I'm terrified of Rivera coming back. I've thought this for a while.

Hoping Rivera's farewell tour concludes this week. (at Chi, at Phi, at SD)

[Growl]

So much of our philosophy and just overall way we operate reflect theirs and it's led to similar results. I liked the Rivera hiring but this has been my primary concern all along

[davos]

We really have become the Chargers

Well at least we have a guy from the Giants organization looking for our next General Manager who hopefully will look at Rivera and the potential hc crop and figure something out for our best interest.

[Who Said What?]

So much of our philosophy and just overall way we operate reflect theirs and it's led to similar results. I liked the Rivera hiring but this has been my primary concern all along

See I just got it when I seen that article. I felt like we were knee deep in a philosophy that didn't fit our players and we were doing things that were different from the past, but not effective. It was like when Henning left it was all puppy dogs and ice cream around here, but Davidson seemed to be worse as well as losing too. When I read this article I put it together and was like no wonder. We are just like those bums(Chargers). I would rather it stop now than continue any further.

[rayzor]

i think some new HC somewhere (not here because that would be awkward) would jump at the chance to have rivera running their D and turner running their O.

i just hope it's some AFC team and glad that no NFCS team is going to be looking for a new HC. those two together could be good somewhere.

[panthers55]

I read the article and didn't get any of that. Maybe I didn't have a preconceived notion before I read it. I just read the usual pregame hype coaches say about every team before they play a game against a team they previously coached for.

[unicar15]

We hired a staff that doesn't know how to win big games...what did JR expect? It was obvious about halfway through last year that Rivera didn't know what he was doing.

[unicar15]

nm

[unicar15]

We hired a staff that doesn't know how to win big games...what did JR expect? It was obvious about halfway through last year that Rivera didn't know what he was doing.

[Growl]

Every year the Chargers do just enough to keep people who need to be fired from being fired. That's what scares me about Rivera's late season success. That the way our team is built makes us look sexy enough to keep people who need to lose their jobs from doing so.

[davos]

Every year the Chargers do just enough to keep people who need to be fired from being fired. That's what scares me about Rivera's late season success. That the way our team is built makes us look sexy enough to keep people who need to lose their jobs from doing so.

I totally agree

[Argus Plexus]

Too little too late, RR and Co. slogan. He's a nice guy and all but he needs to go.

[4Corners]

Norv Turner is a coordinator, not a coach. Same argument could be said regarding Rivera.

Turner is a coach who should have been fired at least two seasons ago. Will the same be said about Rivera?