Arguing with refs

[Mr. Scot]

One thing I think ought to be remembered in the midst of discussing Newton's confrontation with Jerome Boger today...

While he shouldn't have touched him, I for one absolutely want my team's quarterback working the refs during games, especially close ones.

Make sure the refs know what the other side is up to. They're holding. They're offsides. They're cheap shotting. They're on the sidelines kicking puppies and talking about your mother.

(whether or not they're actually doing any of these things is irrelevant, of course)

Now understand, you won't be the only one. Over on the other sideline, the opposing team is telling the refs that all your players are Satan worshipping, cross-dressing neo-nazis. That's just how it goes.

The caveat here is that the refs are more likely to believe you if you're a winning team / coach / quarterback / whatever. Granted, that's not fair, but that's reality.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Good point, work the bastards...

[PhillyB]

jake delhomme did this after every damn play.

[JawnyBlaze]

One thing I think that's being lost in all the discussion about Cam's incident with the ref, he's didn't intentionally touch him. People all over the place are crying "if you intentionally touch a ref, you're ejected blahblahblah". He was either yelling at the ref, or in some theories, the Raider guy that kept driving into him after the ball was thrown. The fact that Cam brushed the ref was an obvious accident. He was emphatically making his point and made the briefest, faintest of contact possible. The ref's body wasn't even shifted by the touch. I think his shirt sleeve was slightly shifted...

[Mr. Scot]

jake delhomme did this after every damn play.

And people reamed him for it.

One thing I think that's being lost in all the discussion about Cam's incident with the ref, he's didn't intentionally touch him. People all over the place are crying "if you intentionally touch a ref, you're ejected blahblahblah". He was either yelling at the ref, or in some theories, the Raider guy that kept driving him after the ball was thrown. The fact that Cam brushed the ref was an obvious accident. He was emphatically making his point and made the briefest, faintest of contact possible. The ref's body wasn't even shifted by the touch. I think his shirt sleeve was slightly shifted...

I think that's why he was flagged rather than ejected.

[fieryprophet]

It doesn't matter, we won, no one will remember this game a week from now.

[Meangelo]

One thing I think that's being lost in all the discussion about Cam's incident with the ref, he's didn't intentionally touch him. People all over the place are crying "if you intentionally touch a ref, you're ejected blahblahblah". He was either yelling at the ref, or in some theories, the Raider guy that kept driving into him after the ball was thrown. The fact that Cam brushed the ref was an obvious accident. He was emphatically making his point and made the briefest, faintest of contact possible. The ref's body wasn't even shifted by the touch. I think his shirt sleeve was slightly shifted...

[JawnyBlaze]

It doesn't matter, we won, no one will remember this game a week from now.

Peter King and a legion of other haters will remember it. It will be filed away in an evidence folder for later use.

[JawnyBlaze]

Thanks for providing video evidence to prove my point.

[Mr. Scot]

Peter King and a legion of other haters will remember it. It will be filed away in an evidence folder for later use.

A Super Bowl ring makes that stuff go away.

I know people generally think it sucks when they see the refs and the media bowing down and kissing the asses of Brady, Manning, Brees, Big Ben, etc. But folks should remember that if Newton gets a ring, he'll get the same "benefit of a doubt" that those guys do.

That..won't suck at all :)

[philp]

Thanks for providing video evidence to prove my point.

Can someone put some bone thugs on top of this please?

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

jake delhomme did this after every damn play.

he went into convulsions screaming for flags after every play. that's what i was thinking all day when this stuff went down.

[Mr. Scot]

he went into convulsions screaming for flags after every play. that's what i was thinking all day when this stuff went down.

And a lot of times it worked.

Back in the day, Dan Marino threw some temper tantrums that would have embarrassed a five year old.

And Tom Brady? Yeesh. Catch that spike last week after the refs let the Niners call time out?

It's part of the game. And I absolutely want Newton doing it too.

[footballisasport]

One thing I think that's being lost in all the discussion about Cam's incident with the ref, he's didn't intentionally touch him. People all over the place are crying "if you intentionally touch a ref, you're ejected blahblahblah". He was either yelling at the ref, or in some theories, the Raider guy that kept driving into him after the ball was thrown. The fact that Cam brushed the ref was an obvious accident. He was emphatically making his point and made the briefest, faintest of contact possible. The ref's body wasn't even shifted by the touch. I think his shirt sleeve was slightly shifted...

It's Cam.. Anything he does goes from reality to someone's cheap fantasy.