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I was wrong but moving forward

ladypanther

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i don't think that was the case until he gave fox the ultimatum of two winning seasons in a row or i tear it up and we start looking forward.

he should have let hurney go with fox and started with a truly clean slate. he didn't want to shake things up to bad, but he ended up making things out of balance.

i have a feeling that we'll be paying for that for a long time.

Yeah, I mean there is a history of him hiring guys prior to that who had almost full functioning autonomy in their positions (Polian, Seifert, Hurney initially)... But, I think it was a change of approach as you said.

And I think this is a fine example of how dysfunctional we are right now as an organization... As you suggested, the GM and coach generally should go hand in hand, When the only other team looking for a GM but retained their underperforming coach is the Jets with Rex Ryan, there is a problem.

There was no point in firing Hurney, especially midseason, when you are keeping his questionable hire of a coach in place regardless of who you hire as a GM.

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i don't think that was the case until he gave fox the ultimatum of two winning seasons in a row or i tear it up and we start looking forward.

he should have let hurney go with fox and started with a truly clean slate. he didn't want to shake things up to bad, but he ended up making things out of balance.

i have a feeling that we'll be paying for that for a long time.

I truly believe that in hindsight. JR would take that decision back. Which is why I truly believe he is going to make a better decision this time.

I am condident that JR will make sure the new GM will be on board with Rivera. Which, to me, sounds like success. Which only ups my giddy more than ever.

I see a bright future. Even if, Zod forbid, Beane gets the job. Well, maybe not that bright.

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I've been very critical of Rivera at times, and he's gotten his fair share of the blame, but he'd have a winning record as a coach if not directly because of some player fugups. I'm not talking about aw man so and so fumbled in the 2nd quarter, I mean as a direct result of game ending plays late in the fourth. AZ last year, ATL this year, New Orleans last year, Seattle this year, Tampa Bay this year, Chicago this year, etc.

So again, yes Rivera has fuged up, but if players do their jobs none of this is being talked about. Instead we are talking about how to shut down Aaron Rodgers in our game against GB in an hour and a half or so.

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I was among those who said that Rivera should not and would not be retained, I was wrong on 1 and perhaps both points. He now has my support.

I thought it was interesting that Rivera said he and Mr Richardson have met every week (since Hurney was fired) and JR tells him what he likes and doesn't like. JR must have seen some evidence that RR listened and made some changes.

I am moving forward believing.

This is why I am excited. I truly believe JR trusts Rivera to get us where we want to go. Rivera would be gone otherwise.

I trust JR. I think he is trying to right the ship. I will support this change, as I see it as a step forward. I am not in fear of another mistake hire ike some folks seem to be.

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This is why I am excited. I truly believe JR trusts Rivera to get us where we want to go. Rivera would be gone otherwise.

I trust JR. I think he is trying to right the ship. I will support this change, as I see it as a step forward. I am not in fear of another mistake hire ike some folks seem to be.

Well said.

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I been on the fire the Rivera bandwagon for quiet some time. I wasn't mad or anything when I found out he would be retained. I expected the inevitable to happen in that situation anyway, I'm ok that JR brought Rivera back. I 100% support the Panthers and Ron Rivera now. I'm a Panthers fan at heart and I will continue to be a Panthers fan for as long as I live. Hopefully next year we can get our team on the right track and make the playoffs. I'm not accepting anything less then the playoffs next year and everyone else should feel the same.

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If we don't have a winning record in the first half of the season, he'll never have my support.

This may just be the truth. Rivera pretty much must make the playoffs. If it looks like we fall short again, he better have one hell of a reason. Start 2- 4 and the rumblings will start. Start 4-2 and it will be but pitiful mummerings.

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