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Gil Brandt ranks Cam 7th best QB under 30


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7) Cam Newton, 23, Carolina Panthers

If Newton always played like he did in the latter half of 2012, he would move up this list. I wish he would demonstrate more involvement in the game when he's on the sideline between series. His arm strength and athleticism give him unlimited potential.

http://www.nfl.com/n...rbacks-under-30

Yes, he brings up the sideline poo AGAIN.

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Can't argue with the "more involvement" thing.

Actually, you can. Cam has been seen talking to Steve after miscues etc on the sideline, this media bullshit needs to stop. And our fans need to stop being fuging sheep and think everything the media tells them is true.

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Outside of Luck and Kaep, it is about what I'd rank it right now. I'd have Newton over Wilson but you can go back and forth on those two. Going ahead, as in who I'd want, I'd rather Newton over Flacco and Ryan but as of NOW, both deserve to be ranked over him.

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http://www.nfl.com/n...rbacks-under-30

Yes, he brings up the sideline poo AGAIN.

I guess Gil didn't get the memo on the Early Season Chud-Offense Fiasco, huh? LOL

I respect him on many things NFL, and even Cam. However, he doesn't appear to have followed the team and is just winging it for this piece (that's why he left it open, regarding Cam's "unlimited potential", as if Kaepernick and Luck aren't any more raw than Cam right now), with his comments. LOL. Cam has always been active on the sidelines, especially lately, regardless of what and when the media said it. That was a manufactured issue. I'm surprised so many Panther fans--even fall for that.

Now if he's limiting Cam from what he didn't do during the second half of the 2012 season (and totally ignoring what he did during his first season), then how the hell does he have Kaepernick (a guy that's only started 9 games), and even Luck--a rookie ranked higher!? Such a small sample size. I'm sure this list is very fluid and subject to change, but still. Come on Gil.

Makes no sense. But it's all good. I guess, the better way to look at it is: Cam would have been higher on the list, if he didn't have such a poor start (thanks Chud), and if the media started showing him talking to his teammates and coaches more, which he does. SMH/LOL. To each is own.

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gil brandt has been one of cam's biggest supporters, esp. prior to the draft.

i don't like the list and don't think it matters, but there's been some things that cam needed to change about the way he handles himself that hopefully was later in the season.

he had his issues last year for sure, not the whole season but definitely the first half.

if the team starts winning, he'll climb up those lists that people apparently put so much stock in. until the team can figure out how to do it consistently and find their way into the playoffs, he'll stay right about where he is.

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I've pretty much given up on the media. The bottom line is they don't have the time or desire to dig into film and fully evaluate the players so they look at stats and winning percentage and maybe one or two games. You can't possibly expect them to know as much about Cam as we do. If Cam can keep improving and start winning he will get his credit. Some of those QBs will have "Sophmore slumps" and be tossed out with the trash, this is how the media works.

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