Beason a June 1st cut?

[MaineManPanther]

Didn't forget anything. Doesn't matter that he played his first couple games as a rookie at OLB. Beason is a MLB. He was our MLB. His job is now gone.

You don't pay huge money to an injury plagued question mark to play OLB (a spot he doesn't play as well as his most natural fit).

It may be 2014 before Beason is back in form. It was unrealistic to think Beason would comeback in 2012 and be back in form......and it is unrealistic to assume he will be back to being the old Beason in 2013.

What is sad is Beason got hurt. I am a Panther fan though. I don't want them allowing everyone the opportunities Thomas Davis got. Can't win doing that.

Might as well look in the draft to find a long term solution to OLB (doesn't have to be a high pick or even this year)....Beason by his own words at 100% isn't even close to Thomas Davis at 100% at OLB. Find a pass rusher for the future to play next to Luke. That isn't Beason. Need to start investing real money in other areas not named LB and RB. Jon, if he ever gets healthy, would be the 2nd best LB on a 4-3 D.....he shouldn't be getting paid.

His initial role is gone. But he has enough instincts, size and speed to be a asset with a full offseason to prepare. Assuming health. If he isn't then he should be gone.

I don't think anybody thinks he deserves that money or should be being paid that. But the way the contract is structured we will be paying regardless so I don't see the point in releasing him this year if we can make use of it.

Also we have to many bigger holes to to fill and draft/ fa. Guard, Ot, Dt, Cb, Wr, and both safeties. I don't see why one OLB spot deserves to be put ahead of most of those.

[carpanfan96]

according to an earlier post you subtract the base salary from the signing bonus, and then spread that figure over 2 years. So that would make his 12mil figure drop to 8.25 spread over 2 years that is 4.12 mil and 4.13mil

No, the dead money is what is spread over the two years. It's there no matter what the team does. You don't subtract his base salary or anything like that.

It's dead money "12 Million" plus any other guaranteed money "3.75 Million" added together and spread over the two years. So 15.75 Million spread over two year. With the June 1st cut, Beason's dead money would be split up as follows.

4 million this season + 3.75 Million guaranteed salary. 7.75 Million total

8 million next season = 8 Million total.

[panfan32]

Didn't forget anything. Doesn't matter that he played his first couple games as a rookie at OLB. Beason is a MLB. He was our MLB. His job is now gone.

You don't pay huge money to an injury plagued question mark to play OLB (a spot he doesn't play as well as his most natural fit).

It may be 2014 before Beason is back in form. It was unrealistic to think Beason would comeback in 2012 and be back in form......and it is unrealistic to assume he will be back to being the old Beason in 2013.

What is sad is Beason got hurt. I am a Panther fan though. I don't want them allowing everyone the opportunities Thomas Davis got. Can't win doing that.

Might as well look in the draft to find a long term solution to OLB (doesn't have to be a high pick or even this year)....Beason by his own words at 100% isn't even close to Thomas Davis at 100% at OLB. Find a pass rusher for the future to play next to Luke. That isn't Beason. Need to start investing real money in other areas not named LB and RB. Jon, if he ever gets healthy, would be the 2nd best LB on a 4-3 D.....he shouldn't be getting paid.

Nest thing you'll say is let go get a #1 WR or a new #1 TE. Lets go draft a player for a position that we are deep in. Hey here is an idea let draft a new HB.

As far as him not being ready to come back, he was ready with his Achilles tendon they kept him out of preseason due to his issue with either the knee or shoulder. The point I'm making is your saying hey we have no where for you so lets cut his ass and call it a day. YOU do not cut one of your best players and think its an upgrade to the team. A Line back and I could use a Beason quote from a previous interview he made can play any o the positions within the LB CORP!

Yes he may feel better playing at MLB but that does not mean hes actually better at it or worse at another. He has the sideline to sideline speed needed to play any of the 4-5 LB spots and has. he s not over the hill hes only 28 which of LB's is young. His a smart player and reads defenses well.

As long as he takes a re-look at his contract, he would be our SLB where he would be better suited than the WLB.

The issue with me is its an on going thing in these forums that "fans" turn there back on players as soon as something new comes along. it sickens me to see how fast we turn our back on the team and players that we have cheered for for so any years.

Are you one of them, I'm not saying you are. So don't take it that way but i have seen to much of this over the past three years.

[carpanfan96]

The Achilles injury usually takes 1 1/2 - 2 years to come back from and be the same player or in most cases 90% of the same player. That's with fully rehabbing it the whole time. Beason's had to rehab other injuries as well over that time period. It's not un reasonable to think he wont be back to full strength or being Beason till the 2014 season.

Also Smitty is a shorter speed receiver and he's getting up there in age, so yes the Panther's need a new #1 receiver to take over for him. ASAP since it usually takes a WR 3 years to adjust to the NFL.

[CRA]

Beason is something none of us know the answer to on what will happen, one of the biggest mystery's this off season.

However, to those that think he wont be back to a very good linebacker just don't get it do you

Be back when to being very good?

he won't be a very good OLB this year most likely....bc he is a much better MLB than OLB when healthy and is coming off 2 years worth of injuries. When he releases an offseason vid with his shirt off don't get too caught up in it

[CRA]

Nest thing you'll say is let go get a #1 WR or a new #1 TE. Lets go draft a player for a position that we are deep in. Hey here is an idea let draft a new HB.

As far as him not being ready to come back, he was ready with his Achilles tendon they kept him out of preseason due to his issue with either the knee or shoulder. The point I'm making is your saying hey we have no where for you so lets cut his ass and call it a day. YOU do not cut one of your best players and think its an upgrade to the team. A Line back and I could use a Beason quote from a previous interview he made can play any o the positions within the LB CORP!

Yes he may feel better playing at MLB but that does not mean hes actually better at it or worse at another. He has the sideline to sideline speed needed to play any of the 4-5 LB spots and has. he s not over the hill hes only 28 which of LB's is young. His a smart player and reads defenses well.

As long as he takes a re-look at his contract, he would be our SLB where he would be better suited than the WLB.

The issue with me is its an on going thing in these forums that "fans" turn there back on players as soon as something new comes along. it sickens me to see how fast we turn our back on the team and players that we have cheered for for so any years.

Are you one of them, I'm not saying you are. So don't take it that way but i have seen to much of this over the past three years.

You don't pay tons of money to your 2nd best LB on a 4-3 defense...

The NFL is about moving on from players....that is reality. Hurney didn't live in reality....he lived in a world where you pay 2 RBs featured money and then bring in Mike Tolbert on a team with Cam Newton.

[MHS831]

Beason would still count against our cap even if he's cut. We're not cutting Beason.

See above.

I am not reading 12 pages of one-liners and not-so-cap-intelligent comments about cutting a pro bowler that would cost us less to keep. If this has been stated (probably has), sorry.

Beason as an OLB is better than most OLBs in the league. He will restructure. If we feel good about the leg, and I think he will be OK there--my concern is with the Achilles. If you ever met Beason, you would not bet against him.

If I had 10 Jon Beasons on my team, I would have a good team. The guy is a presence.

Beason is smallish for a MLB--they tend to get beat up and don't last that long--moving him to the outside is a great move for him. TD is not a guarantee, and we will probably run some 4 lb looks next year, according to McD.

[MHS831]

You don't pay tons of money to your 2nd best LB on a 4-3 defense...

The NFL is about moving on from players....that is reality. Hurney didn't live in reality....he lived in a world where you pay 2 RBs featured money and then bring in Mike Tolbert on a team with Cam Newton.

Beason is in a bad place if he wants to move on--first,he would have to rework his contract, second, the panthers are into him for a lot of guaranteed money, and third, the injury history is a red flag.

The only way I see this happening is if another team has another player in a similar situation at a need position and we swap. Not even sure if it is smart then.

Hurney stuck Panther nation and I am upset with JR for giving a desperate man the keys to the kingdom.

[CPF4LIFE]

If Beason can participate in training camp and pre season this upcoming year i feel real good about him going into the season.

[CRA]

See above.

I am not reading 12 pages of one-liners and not-so-cap-intelligent comments about cutting a pro bowler that would cost us less to keep. If this has been stated (probably has), sorry.

Beason as an OLB is better than most OLBs in the league. He will restructure. If we feel good about the leg, and I think he will be OK there--my concern is with the Achilles. If you ever met Beason, you would not bet against him.

If I had 10 Jon Beasons on my team, I would have a good team. The guy is a presence.

Beason is smallish for a MLB--they tend to get beat up and don't last that long--moving him to the outside is a great move for him. TD is not a guarantee, and we will probably run some 4 lb looks next year, according to McD.

Beason as an actual OLB....hasn't been better than most OLBs.

Even he will tell you when healthy he isn't as good as TD.

[MaineManPanther]

The sample size of Beason as a Olb isn't big. Davis at full health is one of the best in the league, so him not being quite on the same level, isn't a big deal.

[MHS831]

Beason as an actual OLB....hasn't been better than most OLBs.

Even he will tell you when healthy he isn't as good as TD.

Are you saying that TD is average? TD is one of the best when healthy. Is Beason better than Anderson, who is about average? Yes. Does it take time to transition to OLB from MLB? yes. Give Beason a shot.

[CRA]

Are you saying that TD is average? TD is one of the best when healthy. Is Beason better than Anderson, who is about average? Yes. Does it take time to transition to OLB from MLB? yes. Give Beason a shot.

I said Beason as a OLB wasn't one of the best in the NFL. That's all.

He doesn't have a resume on play suggesting anything outside of MLB in the NFL.

The cost of Beason really isn't worth giving him a shot sadly

[Zod]

I wonder how many guys on here know what I'm talking about haha

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