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Kenny Vaccaro visiting tomorrow

Zithers

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panthers55 Grand Master

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I don't give a flying **** if you find me credible. 80% of this board finds him overrated because they can see with their own eyes that Vaccaro can't tackle a RB or WR to save his life (which is precisely why he was essentially used as a LB) in the open field. They also watched him get burned by freshmen and no-names while playing centerfielder.

If you bothered to watch the tape, it should be crystal clear to you.

Actually what is crystal clear to me is that you are a pompous wind bag who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. I also know enough to know that I am not trained to analyze tape and that without knowing what was called or what a player is supposed to do you don't know if they did what they are supposed to do. For example without knowing what route the receiver was supposed to run based on the defensive coverage or audibles called, how do you even know if his route was run correctly. You only see what happened not what was supposed to happen. They are very different.

I don't try to be an expert here, i listen to those who I consider to be, like Gil Brandt for example. Too bad that point totally escapes you. The thing that you hope everyone doesn't know, which is you don't have a clue, if unfortunately evident to everyone else.

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koolkatluke Newbie

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You mean the same scouts and experts that predicted that Troy Williamson would be the next Chris Carter? Save it. Believe whatever the hell you want, I don't care. Vaccaro is overrated and if you chose to take analysts who play favorites all day that seriously then good for you but don't pretend to have a football IQ just because you listen to Mel Kiper Jr's breakdowns.

I don't think he ever did that. Actually 55 said in his post he's not a football scout that's why he listen to their opinion.

You're the one sitting acting like you get paid for your football knowledge.

What team or what sports information company pays you?

What credentials do you have that says your better then Brandt, Mayock, Mcshay, Kiper, Rang, Brooks, Silva, even Nawrocki?

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koolkatluke Newbie

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You mean the flaws that posters here can plainly see from the tape? That doesn't require a doctorate or a job title. Any idiot can play scouting expert. I'll take it a step further, any individual with functional vision can see a player's shortcomings.

I don't care about draft analysts. I don't trust them. I rely on what I see not on what I read.

WTF is wrong with you??

Then why aren't you doing it now??? I willing to bet these guys make triple what you do in your day to day job. There is no reason you would rather sit here posting on a MB or doing what you do at a 9-5. If you could be working for a team or getting paid to express your opinion on TV.

This isn't Subway where you can maybe make a sub like the guy behind the counter. These guy get paid and do this 24/7 365 days out of the year. They have contacts with teams and coaches that you don't even know. They watch tape that us MB GM can't get our hands on. They are up close and personal watching these prospects workout. They have way more excess to make a informed Judgement.

I'm good at math but I don't claim to be a accountant. Is the point I'm trying to get thru to you,

Now I'm not attacking you because we've agreed on many subjects (not this Vaccaro thing) and you have some good knowledge on the subject but please don't be the asshole. Posting on a MB claiming you can do a better job then the guys who actually make a "very good" living off of the work they do.

Just stop this insane power trip you're on right now.

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Funny how all the Allen jock huggers used Mayock as their source for why he will be great, and all the Vaccaro haters ignore that Mayock lists him the best safety in college and not a peep.

Me I trust the Panthers to pick the best guy for our team since they know what kind of player we need to run our schemes. And their record in the first round is rather impressive. I would be fine with a safety in the first actually. We have ignored the position long enough and with all the receivers and tight ends in our division, we need to shore up the secondary. I think that is as big a need as NT right now.......................

I never said I dislike Vaccaro. Ive shown my love for him many times. I like whoever Mayock likes except for Lane Johnson bc I don't see OT as a need. But the kid is exceptional.

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WTF is wrong with you??

Then why aren't you doing it now??? I willing to bet these guys make triple what you do in your day to day job. There is no reason you would rather sit here posting on a MB or doing what you do at a 9-5. If you could be working for a team or getting paid to express your opinion on TV.

This isn't Subway where you can maybe make a sub like the guy behind the counter. These guy get paid and do this 24/7 365 days out of the year. They have contacts with teams and coaches that you don't even know. They watch tape that us MB GM can't get our hands on. They are up close and personal watching these prospects workout. They have way more excess to make a informed Judgement.

I'm good at math but I don't claim to be a accountant. Is the point I'm trying to get thru to you,

Now I'm not attacking you because we've agreed on many subjects (not this Vaccaro thing) and you have some good knowledge on the subject but please don't be the asshole. Posting on a MB claiming you can do a better job then the guys who actually make a "very good" living off of the work they do.

Just stop this insane power trip you're on right now.

ZING!!

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How do you know this?

oh man, havnt you heard all the 12 year old Madden experts explaining how were going to take a WR at 14? Cleary were going to draft a punt returner at 14, lmao.

Duuuuuuuuude PUNT RETURNER!

Watch. . . explain it to them logically and they will start another thread tomorrow saying the same thing until they get someone who agrees with them. "Hey youre smart!" "hey you are too! YAY!"

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oh man, havnt you heard all the 12 year old Madden experts explaining how were going to take a WR at 14? Cleary were going to draft a punt returner at 14, lmao.

Duuuuuuuuude PUNT RETURNER!

Watch. . . explain it to them logically and they will start another thread tomorrow saying the same thing until they get someone who agrees with them. "Hey youre smart!" "hey you are too! YAY!"

Yea, one of them is you.

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