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What did you see to support the claim our secondary improved over the course of last season?

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Ok I'll clarify in the OP. However, actually reading through the thread you would see the point was to discuss how the secondary improved over the season.

actually reading through the thread i saw pissing matches and name calling.

 

not worth reading the whole thing. just skimming is enough, thanks.

 

thanks for the clarification in the title.

 

specifically...the team as a whole just got their crap together.

 

the coaching staff quit being fancy and instead of lots of blitzes and stunts just relied on their DL for the pass rush. keek controlled the middle of the field, and the defense ran most of the time in nickel packages (after the first down) and sometimes in dime packages. they did a lot of zone and a little man, but quite often it was in zone nickel packages. 

 

norman was in over his head and needed to sit down. the guys they asked to step up did. godfrey started playing more later in the year at FS.

 

first down the panthers pretty much shut down the run in their "base" using their front seven and forced the offense to focus on passing the next couple downs and that's when the D went to nickel packages using 5 DBs instead of an LB. it was just a matter of flooding the area with DBs and all you needed to do was crowd the receivers and pretty much just not screw up.

 

that's my explanation anyway. the proof is in the end results and the improvement overall in the D from the first half of the season (where they were ranked poorly across the board) to the last half (where they worked their way up into the top 10).

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actually reading through the thread i saw pissing matches and name calling.

 

not worth reading the whole thing. just skimming is enough, thanks.

 

thanks for the clarification in the title.

 

specifically...the team as a whole just got their crap together.

 

the coaching staff quit being fancy and instead of lots of blitzes and stunts just relied on their DL for the pass rush. keek controlled the middle of the field, and the defense ran most of the time in nickel packages (after the first down) and sometimes in dime packages. they did a lot of zone and a little man, but quite often it was in zone nickel packages. 

 

norman was in over his head and needed to sit down. the guys they asked to step up did. godfrey started playing more later in the year at FS.

 

first down the panthers pretty much shut down the run in their "base" using their front seven and forced the offense to focus on passing the next couple downs and that's when the D went to nickel packages using 5 DBs instead of an LB. it was just a matter of flooding the area with DBs and all you needed to do was crowd the receivers and pretty much just not screw up.

 

that's my explanation anyway. the proof is in the end results and the improvement overall in the D from the first half of the season (where they were ranked poorly across the board) to the last half (where they worked their way up into the top 10).

 

The 4th post I compared the first half of the season to the second. Didn't need to read far to see I was talking about just last season.

 

Anyway, you say they forced opponents into passing downs and put more DBs on the field. Yet the opponent was still getting yards, putting up points, and completing a high percentage of passing. How is that improvement?

 

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I'm telling you Mitchell is going to be a player this year. Gettlemen Pro Player evaluation skills mixed with the size & speed combination this guy has (6'1 215-217LB running a 4.46).  Add in the profootball focus breakdown and the better coaching he will get with us then he did with the raiders. I'm really getting a good vibe out of him.

good points.

 

i'm kind of feeling that way about pretty much everyone he's added, tho.

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I like how some of you think UDFA are going to be legendary starters. What ever gets you out of the bed in the mornings.

Dude, Nakamura has spent years behind Ed Freaking Reed. I mean it is obvious you can't bench Reed but this dude is a legit S and as a bonus he is a special teams monster. Now he gets his chance to shine. Hurn-dog got us a steal...no worries.

Every year rejects and players their teams don't value come and people spend on offseason convincing themselves they are gonna be players. Teams don't just let players walk unless forced to....

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this is another case of where i didnt understand the LB and RB picks when there was decent talent at a position of need.but it wouldnt be a panther draft if we didnt take one or the other.

Gettlemen was brought in to fix Hurney's mess. Those 2 picks are part of fixing it
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Dude, Nakamura has spent years behind Ed Freaking Reed. I mean it is obvious you can't bench Reed but this dude is a legit S and as a bonus he is a special teams monster. Now he gets his chance to shine. Hurn-dog got us a steal...no worries.

Every year rejects and players their teams don't value come and people spend on offseason convincing themselves they are gonna be players. Teams don't just let players walk unless forced to....

Ed Reed was allowed to walk this season. great example.
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Ed Reed was allowed to walk this season. great example.

Reed is a name. Ed Reed is washed up...you let players that you don't value what they can do on the field walk. Unless your hand is turned.

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I like how some of you think UDFA are going to be legendary starters. What ever gets you out of the bed in the mornings. 

 

i like how you think that thinking that some udfas might possibly be contributors means that they will be legendary starters.

 

 

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