Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Gay player...problem fans


ladypanther

Recommended Posts

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9403433/bruce-arians-arizona-cardinals-fans-biggest-obstacle-gay-player

 

 

 

 

Arizona Cardinals coach Bruce Arians told FoxSports.com on Wednesday he believes that NFL players and coaches would be accepting of an openly gay player, but he's not so sure fans would feel the same way.

"I don't think the locker room would have any problem with it," Arians said in a telephone interview with the website. "The problem would be with the fans. I think especially opposing fans. Some of the things that are said are over the top and out of control that I can imagine what some fans would say to an openly gay player."

 

 

My guess based on my experience here......sadly, he is right.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i've said this before. America has a tendency of being the last place to do something "progressive" but the first to pat themselves on the back when they finally get something right.   A gay NFL player making it that far in the profession with all of the homophobia he/she has more than likely witnessed/experienced is the definition of character and perserverence. That takes balls.  But mob America will poo on this person. Jackie Robinson comes to mind. And yes there is a similarity between race and sexuality in this context.  Once a gay player comes out, and plays, over time it won't be as much of an issue. It will open doors for many.

 

I want this team to be the best it can be. For example, if the rumors are true about Kerry Rhodes and he can help this team. Sign that dude. My only hope is that the rest of the Panthers organization and fans would support him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Not sure about Jackie Robinson comparisons there. An individual can't hide ones race....

I think there are a number of players who would take issue with a gay teammate, unfortunate but true.

 

i just meant in the circumstance that the gay player was out. So he wasn't hiding anything. The JR comparisons ring true because they would both experience vitriol from the fans. That's all that i meant by that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't care if you pitch, catch, spit or swallow as long as you can run fast, catch, tackle or keep from getting tackled.

The biggest thing for me is I just don't want to hear about it non stop from every outlet and publication on the planet.

So what if some football dude smokes pole? It's not like its a performance enhancer or anything.

I pay to see football, not attend a civil rights lecture. There are other venues for that. Also, ignoring things of this nature is why we have sports in the first place, to forget about all this serious poo for 3 hours once a week. So please spare me the activist rhetoric and let me watch the game in peace.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i just meant in the circumstance that the gay player was out. So he wasn't hiding anything. The JR comparisons ring true because they would both experience vitriol from the fans. That's all that i meant by that.

There would certainly be some ignorant groups of fans, but I also think there would be many more in support of the player. Sports in general can sadly bring out the worst in people but not all fans are irrational deranged bigots.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I understand why people don't like the gays....gay only became cool like 5-7 years ago. I remember the Ellen show and it was such a big deal that a homosexual was the star in a sitcom and that was in 1997. America at one time not long ago was a mostly Christian nation and you would never hear anybody speak bad about god or the bible(not anymore)...and those folks you will never change.

 

I personally dont give a poo one way or the other if you are gay or not

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There would certainly be some ignorant groups of fans, but I also think there would be many more in support of the player. Sports in general can sadly bring out the worst in people but not all fans are irrational deranged bigots.

 

no doubt. Thats why i said "mob America."  I probably should have said "in general" or something like that. I mean were in the Carolina's

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i've said this before. America has a tendency of being the last place to do something "progressive" but the first to pat themselves on the back when they finally get something right. A gay NFL player making it that far in the profession with all of the homophobia he/she has more than likely witnessed/experienced is the definition of character and perserverence. That takes balls. But mob America will poo on this person. Jackie Robinson comes to mind. And yes there is a similarity between race and sexuality in this context. Once a gay player comes out, and plays, over time it won't be as much of an issue. It will open doors for many.

I want this team to be the best it can be. For example, if the rumors are true about Kerry Rhodes and he can help this team. Sign that dude. My only hope is that the rest of the Panthers organization and fans would support him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Give me Mitchell Evans over T Sanders in this run heavy offense any day of the week. 
    • What's up gents, the OGs remember me, the guy who single-handedly gave the Panthers the greatest uniform in history moniker. Not too long after that I got involved with Pro Football Focus (pre-Collinsworth acquisition) and ended up taking backseat here to preserve some objectivity. But from a distance I noticed a lot. After the end of the Cam era this place devolved into the most un-fun, petty, negative cesspool of whining and bitching that has ever graced the internet. The worst part of it all is that the level of discussion turned into the most ill-informed, hot-take, unnuanced crap, rife with people talking out of their posteriors as if they have any clue about what they are watching. Once you get into the professional side of the sport and actual film rooms, you start to understand there's an absurd number of moving parts to pretty much every snap and the details you are privy to are truly only half the picture. The absolute most important thing I learned from being part of professional level football analysis is that quarterbacking is literally the most intricate and difficult position in all of professional sports, and that the NFL itself is struggling to develop any workable model that allows them to understand what makes one succeed vs what makes one fail. Because of this paradox it has also made the quarterback position itself grossly overvalued from a fan and media standpoint, creating an absurd fixation on the results delivered by a single player who has to rely on the contributions of everyone around them. This also drives the dreaded inflation of QB salaries that inevitably cause even elite teams to lose key talent all to pour cash into the one player supposed to be able to single-handedly elevate the entire team (and defense and special teams and coaching and ownership by some mysterious proxy), yet without those same players even talented teams can wander the wilderness searching for the right guy to take advantage of their talent window. The discussions the last few years around Bryce has personified this insanity, as this board has devolved into some sort of electronic civil war between the hyperbolic Young supporters and the vitriolic Bryce haters. The reality, like practically everything in this world, is somewhere in the middle. He has traits that can absolutely elevate a team with creativity, play recognition, off-arm angle throws, mental toughness, etc. He's also physically limited, with mostly "good-enough" qualities for most situations that a professional quarterback is asked to do, and will never be an overpowering physical force like pre-injury Cam. But "good-enough" physicality represents a large majority of championship-winning quarterbacks, even in the modern era. There's a reason the corpse of Peyton Manning took the chip from elite physical specimen Cam, because the team surrounding him was talented enough to get him there, while we all know Cam was the driving force of that 2015 team. That's no knock on him, that's just how the game of football tends to work: the more complete team usually wins. The summary is this: if this team lives or dies solely on the performance of its quarterback, then it is absolutely a paper tiger even if he plays brilliantly week in and out. There are no superheroes in this sport, there are only conduits that proxy the collective efforts of much of the team around them. And no one alive can tell you how the position is played perfectly, it's all a confluence of circumstance and what unique collection of traits each player brings to the position, which can never be truly recreated season after season, even for the same player on the same team. If this place remains a raging hellscape of idiotic hot takes I will happily remove myself again and do something more productive for yet another decade, but maybe's there hope that we can all get back to the old adage, and keep pounding.
    • Really impressed how the bottom six have looked the past couple games
×
×
  • Create New...