"They're all thugs"

[Mvp2014]

Saying Aaron Hernadez needs to be a prime example of what not do when you "make it" just seems ridiculous to me because I would claim with 99.9% of players in the NFL today, this kind of behavior wouldn't even cross their minds.

Hernandez is something else.

Hes in good company in that 0.1% group with OJ and Carruth

[MadHatter]

Killing someone in the heat of the moment can sometimes be understandable.  Not necessarily forgiveable, but somewhat understandable. 

 

If it was sef defense, I agree with you.

 

But, "understanding" kiliing anyone (if your own life or your family's life was not in danger) is a slippery slope.

[MadHatter]

Kerry Collins was a thug.

 

Absolutely.

 

Guy was a thug...a punk....a racist....and an all around POS.

[Zod]

"Aaron Hernandez is a thug"

 

"Thug is just a racist term used to anger black people!"

 

"Hernandez is Italian and Puerto Rican."

 

"Oh, yeah, but still"

[Panthro]

What about Kerry Collins today?

 

 

[Darth Biscuit]

Was there a title change?

[FootballMaestro]

It's also not fair to categorize all NFL players as millionaires - especially when every team is carrying 90 right now.  The VAST majority of those 1696 young men are NOT millionaires.  Many will never make a final roster.  The majority will only play a few years.  The minority will have long-term careers and become millionaires.

 

I was thinking the same thing when I read that, though I realized the OP was generalizing to make a point. 

[MadHatter]

Thug is just a way for white people to say ******.

 

Maybe for some people.

 

But, when I have used the word "Thug" it was never meant to represent race.  To me it was more of a term I use for someone in gang/criminal lifestyle....and that includes all races.

 

I would consider someone in the Ayrian Nation to be just as much a thug as someone in MS13....or the Bloods....or the Mexican Mafia....etc

[Panthro]

"Aaron Hernandez is a thug"

 

"Thug is just a racist term used to anger black people!"

 

"Hernandez is Italian and Puerto Rican."

 

"Oh, yeah, but still"

 

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One word can mean two totally different things based on who says them and the intent behind what they said..

 

One of my friends says Canadians when he talks about someone who is black.

 

It would not be out of the realm of possibility to also call Hawk a Canadian.

 

One word two different meanings.

[Zod]

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One word can mean two totally different things based on who says them and the intent behind what they said..

 

One of my friends says Canadians when he talks about someone who is black.

 

It would not be out of the realm of possibility to also call Hawk a Canadian.

 

One word two different meanings.

 

I Agree.

[MadHatter]

What about Kerry Collins today?

 

From what I have read, I believe he has straightened his life out some.

 

But, I would probably still consider him a punk and a racist based on his past actions....racists usually don't change.  I know they can, but most don't.

 

[FootballMaestro]

Very true I'm sorry. I think RWilson is only making 500k a year. But still, being in the NFL and making more money than the average person should be enough to keep these guys from shooting people in the back, chest and head.

 

But that's the problem. The money many of these players make are short term. You may make more in  your career. And if you're not in the league more than a few years, what difference does it make if you blow it all, by the time your career is over?

 

Now of course, players who have decent contracts, and/have made significant money (and who are still in the league), like Hernandez, generally have a lot more to lose and should know better. 

[Panthro]

Italian and Puerto Rican....I'd be like 300 pounds

 

 

 

wait....

 

 

:(

[Cary Kollins]

What about Kerry Collins today?

 

???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh you mean Kerry with a K.   :jig: