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If we go 7-9 or 6-10 how would you feel about keeping Rivera if..


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Say we have a top 3 defense, im talking about a D that resembles the steel curtain or 85 Bears D BUT we have say one of the worst offensive rankings in the league. Would you be ok if we kept Rivera ONLY if we went out and got a new OC? And no im not talking about some poo like promoting Ken Dorsey or some poo. I mean a real deal, legit OC. A Hue Jackson or Whisenhunt type.

I must say that what worries me greatly is our D will be so amazing but Shula might make us a sub .500 team, man how devastating would it be if we risk losing out on such a stout D by firing Rivera and starting all over again with a new HC. With all the pieces on D running like a well oiled machine under Rivera, it would really break my heart seeing that blown up.

Before the pitch forks come out, just think of this for a minute. Imagine for one minute if we had the 2011 offense to go along with this 2013 defense, EASILY a 12-4 team and that might be on the low end. Can you imagine how good this team would be with this defense and a Hue Jackson type OC?

Also one more thing. A similar situation happened with Kubiak. It took him 4-5 seasons before the Texans finally became legit under Kubiak and what kept his job safe year after year was the stout D he was building.

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Sean McDermott, you're hired.

Rivera must go.

Im not so sure this would work. Is it more Rivera or Sean that the D is performing well? If we have a top 3 D but a bottom 25 offense, it will be clear as day it was Shula's fault and all we need is a top flight OC. Now obviously if our D struggles as well as the offense, yes then fire them all.

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