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Short 2011 Draft Review

Matthias

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AT THE CURRENT SHTTY RATE, Cam will have 24 TDs to 8 INTs with 2,832 yards off of 296/488 and 56 SACKS!

 

That's if he doesn't get hot anytime this year. No good games. I don't see that happening. Having your QB sacked 56 times in a season is absolutely unacceptable and is a coaching/management failure completely. 

 

As bad as our O-line is, some of those sacks that went down Sunday was because Cam was a statue in the pocket. (Until a defender got a hand on him, then he would move)  Cam has to be able to manuever in the pocket, that's actually what being a pocket passer is all about.

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Does it change your view now?

 

I don't really have a set view.  I've seen Cam succeed throwing the ball, I know he can do it.  Yet he's still not taking off in my eyes, and as I said he's regressing under this staff.  It's a wait and see, I'm just getting impatient.  I don't want to wait too long.

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I didn't say he didn't have success.  Yet, he's regressing now, and of course his accuracy has always been on and off.  I'm wondering if there will be a day where Cam will be thought of as dissecting defenses with his arm, or will he always just be another athletic QB with a strong arm.  I'm getting impatient now.

 

 

It's easy to regress when you have an OC that runs 4 verts and no short patterns with Byron Bell at RT.

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As bad as our O-line is, some of those sacks that went down Sunday was because Cam was a statue in the pocket. (Until a defender got a hand on him, then he would move)  Cam has to be able to manuever in the pocket, that's actually what being a pocket passer is all about.

That notwithstanding, you cannot pin 7 sacks on Cam through 2 games. Every QB in the league holds onto the ball too long now and again, but the majority of sacks are because the O-Line gets overpowered and outclassed. Ours is piss poor so...

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It's easy to regress when you have an OC that runs 4 verts and no short patterns with Byron Bell at RT.

 

I hear ya.  I just want to see something from Cam that says he's close to a breakthrough.  That he is that mature, reliable QB you expect to win 10-12 games a year. (Along with a few 13-15 win seasons)  Right now I'm not getting that vibe.  The bad coaching and bad O-line aside.  I hate to keep comparing Cam to Brady and Manning, but fans of those teams aren't worried about the things we are worried about.  The Pats don't have an amazing line blocking for Brady.  They have worse receivers than ours on the field I think.  Yet there is no Patriot fan worried about that stuff, as long as number 12 is running things.  We hate Matt Ryan, we hate Drew Brees, yet we respect their ability to call a game.  Let's be honest, (and I'm asking everyone) when Cam marches up to the line, do you feel utmost confident good things will happen?  In that Cam is going to lead that offense out there?  Truthfully, I don't.  I know all about Cam's abilities and potential, but I still don't feel confidence in him in leading that offense.  How about the rest of you?

 

 

That notwithstanding, you cannot pin 7 sacks on Cam through 2 games. Every QB in the league holds onto the ball too long now and again, but the majority of sacks are because the O-Line gets overpowered and outclassed. Ours is piss poor so...

 

No, we can't pin all those sacks on Cam, but he should have better pocket presence than he does right now.

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The pass protection was good vs Buffalo. Cam held the ball way to long. He waits for guys to clear and has zero timing with the receivers. His mechanics are off and that should be fixed by now. He hasn't picked apart a defense since that Packers game his rookie year. I don't put all the blame on him but I see what I see during the games. 

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Cam was the right the choice.

The rest of the 2011 draft?

LOLOLOL

Sorry but Hurney crippled this team. The negative effects of poor drafting and ignoring free agency aren't going away any time soon...

 

Agreed. A team needs a franchise QB to consistently compete. Unfortunately, the organization, particularly Marty Hurney, has failed to build the team around Cam and JR missed a golden opportunity to get a coach that would have tailored an offense to maximize Cam's ability (Chip Kelly).

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