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Did you see the rest of your team play or were your eyes glued on Cam? The team wasn't much help, dropping balls all over the place.  And the O-line was like blinds against the other teams Defense.

 

But I guess you were to busy focusing on Cam so you can join the bangwagon of critics. Clearly that's the bandwagon to be on. The Panthers needing to stop blaming their QB and get their acts together isn't  a good bandwagon most of you want to be on because that takes way to much reality check. Blaming a media scrutinized QB is way easier.

 

Five years later...still the same blame game and mess..

 

You mean the 8th best O-line in the league according to PFF?

 

Do I have to say this 9000 times? It's not either Cam sucks or Cam is a god. There's an in-between. Please stop acting like he is immune to any and all criticism. He has good days and bad days, good moments and bad moments. To criticize his play on one given Sunday does not mean I'm hopping on a bandwagon to railroad Cam out of town.

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i dont have to, you immediately went straight to the dropped passes, which totally fugged our early momentum.  do you really have to go to that extreme to disprove my point?

 

When someone only mentions the INT's and omits other very key variables that occurred that game, yes it's getting brought up.

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in which he is admitting failure and areas to improve.  what is more Huddle is the deflection onto everyone else but Cam.  You are a big time deflector, probably the biggest going right now.

 

You are kidding right? Talk about blind bias. I guess you must really disliked Cam that you have been over-looking the endless Threads created on him. Where his every action, both on and off the field, and thought was/is disected and critiqued by a Huddler. Has been that way since I joined this site over three years ago.

 

I actually came on here yesterday looking for a Thread from Smitty's interview. Where he admitted that he FUG Up in dropping those balls Cam throw to him. Especially the one that could have generated a TD. Either it was never created or so little response was made that Thread quickly disappeared.

 

You seriously want to believe that scape-goating your QB since he's been here, is the same as the "Huddle is the deflection onto everyone else but Cam" site?! GTHO

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You are kidding right? Talk about blind bias. I guess you must really disliked Cam that you have been over-looking the endless Threads created on him. Where his every action, both on and off the field, and thought was/is disected and critiqued by a Huddler. Has been that way since I joined this site over three years ago.

 

I actually came on here yesterday looking for a Thread from Smitty's interview. Where he admitted that he FUG Up in dropping those balls Cam throw to him. Especially the one that could have generated a TD. Either it was never created or so little response was made that Thread quickly disappeared.

 

You seriously want to believe that scape-goating your QB since he's been here, is the same as the "Huddle is the deflection onto everyone else but Cam" site?! GTHO

NO! you GTHO, and that's giving your response more attention than it deserves. 

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You mean the 8th best O-line in the league according to PFF?

 

Do I have to say this 9000 times? It's not either Cam sucks or Cam is a god. There's an in-between. Please stop acting like he is immune to any and all criticism. He has good days and bad days, good moments and bad moments. To criticize his play on one given Sunday does not mean I'm hopping on a bandwagon to railroad Cam out of town.

 

It is if your critique is not put in the context of the game and the team as a whole.

 

If week in and out all one reads is what the QB did or didn't do, while the rest of the team aren't doing their part but much isn't made of it, then that it is indeed shows that you already have your mind tainted against your QB. And as soon as you watch the game his every move is what you will voom in on and critiquing because you have made up your mind about him. No matter what you say. You're view of this past Sunday's game is not in context of how the team played, but how Cam performed.  

 

From what I was reading on here Sunday, Cam was having a good game but it seems the team wasn't producing. He then started to forcing the issues to make something happen. A lot of QBs tend to do that because they are the managers of their team.

 

 And no matter where your team's O-line was/is placed on a stat sheet, they didn't show up on Sunday. Simple as that. It seems like the same thing that is plaguing the Giants is plaguing the Panthers. So why is Cam always being scaped-goated on any given Sunday, for the team's mess but with the Giants, the team as a whole is being fault and not just Eli?

 

Sorry but not buying what you are selling.

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the OL HAS to be set well before heading into training camp.

 

we have to quit using TC as a tryout for a spot on the OL. that is a huge mistake. TC needs to be concentrating on developing chemistry between the guys on the OL and cam. they need to have hundreds of reps together as a unit before we even have our first preseason game.

 

yeah, i know supposedly we rate well, but we all know the truth. by the time the first regular game is played we're still dicking around with the lineup.

 

we do this every year and every year it contributes to a slow start.

 

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the OL HAS to be set well before heading into training camp.

 

we have to quit using TC as a tryout for a spot on the OL. that is a huge mistake. TC needs to be concentrating on developing chemistry between the guys on the OL and cam. they need to have hundreds of reps together as a unit before we even have our first preseason game.

 

yeah, i know supposedly we rate well, but we all know the truth. by the time the first regular game is played we're still dicking around with the lineup.

 

we do this every year and every year it contributes to a slow start.

 

Think about when we simply out of the blue cut Jeff Hangartner at the beginning of August. Yeah, he may not have been the greatest. But to do that to your already visibly fragile offensive line just to save money? Then we waited nearly a month to bring Wharton in.

 

Not to mention we used a fourth round pick on a guard from a D2 school who is out for the year and barely practiced at all.

 

No team in the NFL is going to win without a competent offensive line. Looking back, I can't say with confidence that we did enough.

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Think about when we simply out of the blue cut Jeff Hangartner at the beginning of August. Yeah, he may not have been the greatest. But to do that to your already visibly fragile offensive line just to save money? Then we waited nearly a month to bring Wharton in.

 

Not to mention we used a fourth round pick on a guard from a D2 school who is out for the year and barely practiced at all.

 

No team in the NFL is going to win without a competent offensive line. Looking back, I can't say with confidence that we did enough.

 

we cut hangman and then what did we replace him with?

 

and then we lost kug and then what did we replace him with?

 

and then we lost ...ah...that other guy and what did we replace him with?

 

and then we just lost silatolu and what did we replace him with?

 

gettleman is losing me on the handling of the OL.

 

it's utter crap the way it's been built, imo.

 

piecemealed together with whatever random fat guy we have on the practice squad.

 

meh...and we wonder why the offense isn't working. it's a wall of playing cards being held together with scotch tape and we are running an offense that is built around the run and passing routes that take 5 seconds to develop.

 

next summer they have to do stuff a whole lot differently. i'm counting this year as just another in a long line of patterns on how not to build and manage an OL to add to our extensive catalogue of encyclopedias on "how NOT to manage a football team".

 

next summer have the starting 5 set at mini camp and bring in another 10-15 for depth competition and keep the 6 best/healthiest.

 

this year i wouldn't object to going max protect from here on. if shula isn't going to adjust to a faster offense that gets the ball out quicker, then we have got to protect that pocket more.

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