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Quick Note From Tampa Game


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I was really bothered by Cam's 2nd interception as it really seemed to have been a bewildering throw, so I took a look back at it earlier, and discovered why it looked so egregious.

 

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Basically, Lavonte David got away with a blatant illegal contact penalty, as he both impeded LaFell's route and used his arms to shove him away from the ball well past the 5-yard zone. The design of the route was to have LaFell break across Lavonte's face, and with the safeties preoccupied with other routes this could have been a touchdown.

 

Now, all that being said, it was probably still a bad decision considering Cam should have recognized that LaFell would have had to box David out of the pass even if he hadn't committed the penalty, but the error turns out to be one where the defender had an unfair advantage rather than pure blunder.

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I was really bothered by Cam's 2nd interception as it really seemed to have been a bewildering throw, so I took a look back at it earlier, and discovered why it looked so egregious.

 

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Basically, Lavonte David got away with a blatant illegal contact penalty, as he both impeded LaFell's route and used his arms to shove him away from the ball well past the 5-yard zone. The design of the route was to have LaFell break across Lavonte's face, and with the safeties preoccupied with other routes this could have been a touchdown.

 

Now, all that being said, it was probably still a bad decision considering Cam should have recognized that LaFell would have had to box David out of the pass even if he hadn't committed the penalty, but the error turns out to be one where the defender had an unfair advantage rather than pure blunder.

Brady, Manning, Brees makes that throw and guess what, they get the PI call

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Smith said on WFNZ that one was his fault as he ran the wrong route and didnt draw the coverage as far as was designed. Not sure which it was though...

 

Was he talking about the Revis near-pick? I don't see why David should have been trying to cover Smith out of this formation.

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Smith said on WFNZ that one was his fault as he ran the wrong route and didnt draw the coverage as far as was designed. Not sure which it was though...

I heard the same thing. So many things go on during a play that we are unable to see or (like blown routes) unable to understand.

Usually the announcers are useless on helping us out with this problem even though they have a superior vantage point.

So, why not just blame it all on the qb?

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Smith said on WFNZ that one was his fault as he ran the wrong route and didnt draw the coverage as far as was designed. Not sure which it was though...

The smith route was basically a go flag route to the back of the endzone but smith stopped a few yards before the endzone

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Meh... Ball still went right to David. Cam may have placed it better if Lafell had been able to run free but it's not like the corner intercepted that one.

You can look at that as a combination of bad things. Hopefully it gets chalked up as a learning experience and we move on. Didn't hurt the game. Just fantasy scores.

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Contact or not Cam can't make that throw. He was pressured and his feet were literally off the ground as he fell back and threw. Gotta take a sack sometimes.

 

There was nothing wrong with the accuracy of the throw; it wasn't a good decision but the pressure didn't cause the ball to go to Lavonte, his illegal contact did.

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Meh... Ball still went right to David. Cam may have placed it better if Lafell had been able to run free but it's not like the corner intercepted that one.

You can look at that as a combination of bad things. Hopefully it gets chalked up as a learning experience and we move on. Didn't hurt the game. Just fantasy scores.

 

It went to David because he illegally positioned himself there.

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It went to David because he illegally positioned himself there.

 

My mistake.  You're right.  I thought David was the one playing in the underneath zone.  Without that jam LaFell's got the easy catch and run.  I thought he'd just made a bad throw and missed the underneath guy but it looks like that player was leaking out.  He was going the completely opposite direction.  God find FP.

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My mistake. You're right. I thought David was the one playing in the underneath zone. Without that jam LaFell's got the easy catch and run. I thought he'd just made a bad throw and missed the underneath guy but it looks like that player was leaking out. He was going the completely opposite direction. God find FP.

Yep, the underneath defender completely overran the route, which is why Cam threw to the middle of the field (at the tip of the arrow.) David had blocked LaFell from continuing the route, however, so the ball went to him rather than to LaFell.

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