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Shula's play calling was not HORRIBLE, just okay

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raleigh-panther Grand Master

raleigh-panther

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Here's a crazy idea. How about you supply some facts, or evidence with these statements that you are just blindly throwing out?

 

I offered you real statistics, which you completely ignored by the way. Cam had one bad overthrow under pressure on a screen. If you think this team would have been in as many close games as we have since 2011 without Cam Newton, I'm sorry, but you don't know football.

 

No, I'd just rather blindly supply them so that you can feel superior about your sports acumen.

 

It is more entertaining that way.

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Can does seem to hold on to the ball too long. RP is right.. he had open receivers he did not see or did not throw soon enough and then they were covered. He also is waiting too long to take off running when needed. Both of those things evident from the stands. Best pass I thought was drilled to Olsen and when Can let the ball go Olsen had not yet turned around. Want to see more of that. Cam needs to make quicker decisions. He is making the O line look worse than they are.

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in fairness.....you can watch any QB in the NFL "not see" open WRs.  They all miss them pretty consistently, even all the good ones

 

Cam sometimes takes a "Cam sack".  Yes.  Overall though, he still makes the OL better IMO

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Can does seem to hold on to the ball too long. RP is right.. he had open receivers he did not see or did not throw soon enough and then they were covered. He also is waiting too long to take off running when needed. Both of those things evident from the stands. Best pass I thought was drilled to Olsen and when Can let the ball go Olsen had not yet turned around. Want to see more of that. Cam needs to make quicker decisions. He is making the O line look worse than they are.

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You do realize exactly why he is running less right? Do you want the guy to have a lengthy career here?

 

He sure looked damn good throwing those lasers to Greg Olsen to the tune of 88 yards, also on that huge gain to Lafell. This idea that every other quarterback but Cam Newton hits an open man every single time, and never overthrows, or has an incompletion is hilarious.

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Apparently he is the first, and last quarterback to ever overthrow a pass.

It might be time to see what Derek Anderson has left in the tank guys.

 

So because others do it, that makes it ok?

 

DERP

 

Cam has had trouble throwing screens since he got here, what is the problem acknowledging that?

 

You sound like you are dating Cam Newton lol.

 

Reminds me of Brady's wife coming to his defense after the SB.

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So because others do it, that makes it ok?

 

DERP

 

Cam has had trouble throwing screens since he got here, what is the problem acknowledging that?

 

You sound like you are dating Cam Newton lol.

 

Reminds me of Brady's wife coming to his defense after the SB.

 

All the quarterbacks do it, even the ones considered elite, and the veterans.

 

I honestly don't think you have room to talk, considering you act like an hormonal 12 year old girl in every game day thread.

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All the quarterbacks do it, even the ones considered elite, and the veterans.

 

I honestly don't think you have room to talk, considering you act like an hormonal 12 year old girl in every game day thread.

 

I have more room than you I'd imagine....sans a giant c**k in my mouth and all.

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You failed before you even got started. What are we in middle school? Cock in the mouth jokes is all the argument you got?

 

Just stop. Bye bye.

 

I'm not arguing anything...

 

You are the one joining every thread looking to see if someone is critiquing Cam on anything.

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Can does seem to hold on to the ball too long. RP is right.. he had open receivers he did not see or did not throw soon enough and then they were covered. He also is waiting too long to take off running when needed. Both of those things evident from the stands. Best pass I thought was drilled to Olsen and when Can let the ball go Olsen had not yet turned around. Want to see more of that. Cam needs to make quicker decisions. He is making the O line look worse than they are.

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It's nearly impossible to tell these things on television, but I recall the announcers specifically mention more than once during the game yesterday that no one was getting open.

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Some 'fans' put their money where their mouth is....get sick of the 'will never be happy' statements.

 

I was there.  I saw it.  My whole section saw it.

 

My belief is that Cam needs to do better and can do better and should do better...that the issues he has costs the team  as large of chunks of yardage as he gains...and this  can be fixed with coaching.

 

Until he demonstrates that he can handle a closing blitz, he will see more of the same, from much better teams than the Jets.

 

If that makes me a 'saw what I wanted to see person'.  I'm ok with that.

 

Ok, its a good thing he's only 24!!!  Give him more time. They (God, schools, parents, etc.) don't produce instant QBs, as if they were instant grits on a shelf.  People that deal with the NFL for a job would tell you that 3 to 4 years is the average time it takes to see the best out a QB.  Take Peyton Manning for instance.  Compare his first 4-5 years to the rest of his career.  He was averaging in the low 60% completion rating and was something like 1.5:1 in TD:INT.  Then something changed and he had a higher completion percentage and less INTs.  Similar story for most other "top QBs."  The moment Newton starts to be the reason we lose games, come back.

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Ok, its a good thing he's only 24!!!  Give him more time.

 

Other than RG3 Cam and Luck are the youngest of the "new" QBs

 

Kaep is 26 and Wilson 25 so yea Cam still has tons of room for improvement and is going to be so much better when he does some things much more consistently.

 

Oh this is a Panthers forum for discussing the Carolina Panthers?

 

Cam is a Panther? ahh maybe discussing some of those things he can improve(and will improve) on is what we are here for?

 

Naaah

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My complaint about the playcalling is I don't think we were throwing the ball enough. Shula stuck with the run even when the game was close and the Jets were gaining momentum. We had been successful with the pass all day and I think we could have blown out the Jets much earlier had we aired it out a bit more.

 

While Shula's plan worked, I worry about him being too conservative going forward. We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out.

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