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Espn: Norv Turner close to OC deal with Vikings

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panthers55 Grand Master

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Calm down hoss, I said he was better known as a good OC, not head coach.  And yes, he made his name with Aikman, Smith, and Irvin.  He took over a 14-2 team from Marty S in SD, so downhill was the only way to go there as a HC.

 

OC seems to be his best fit.

 

I think I read somewhere he inherited 11 probowl players in 2006 and still couldn't win the Superbowl.  By the time he left last year he had none.  Not a great coach or a great developer of talent. 

 

Using you logic since he is such a crappy head coach then being better as an OC is the only way to go.

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Let me first say that I don't think any of this will happen, nor would I be super excited if Norv did come here.

But seriously? Can you not tell what's different between this year and last year? How about job security and the chance to coach on a winning team?

Norv had his chance last year. I doubt Rivera will cut someone who is loyal for a person who will be gone in a few years.

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Didn't even think of them both being Cowboys guys, 

 

Wonder if we'll pick up Bobby Babich.  Wilks is doing a ridiculous job back there, but it's weird to not have another guy, and he was here for two years (uncredited for both, though I guess he was an admin assistant in '11).  It'd make sense to have him around again.

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Norv Turner has not been all that impressive in his stints as offensive coordinator since leaving the Cowboys.  He was with the Chargers, SF, and Miami.  Best I can remember, he didn't exactly tear up the league.  I can't help but think Turner is living off his glory/pre salary cap days with the team that Jimmy built. 

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Didn't even think of them both being Cowboys guys,

Wonder if we'll pick up Bobby Babich. Wilks is doing a ridiculous job back there, but it's weird to not have another guy, and he was here for two years (uncredited for both, though I guess he was an admin assistant in '11). It'd make sense to have him around again.

Sounds like a good idea.

Didn't we had try to get him into some role last year before he wound up with the Browns?

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I don't know for certain.  Actually, he was barely mentioned as a coach in '12 and I don't remember him being listed on the team site but could be wrong.  His role as a defensive assistant working with nickel backs couldn't have been really any different from being assistant DBs coach, but I could see where that staff would look appealing. 

 

Obviously, Chud wanted to poach all he could.  I thought it was funny he'd reportedly wanted Dorsey, who he'd coached in a few stops, badly enough that he never hired a QBs coach, presumably waiting for this staff to go under.  Not that he wanted that to happen, but he definitely was after Dorsey.  

 

I think we got the better end of keeping Proehl v/s Scott Turner, but wish Shula had that counterpoint guy who can really help him on that level, or on the other end had someone experienced with the passing game that could add something that Dorsey/Proehl might still be too green to add.

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I don't know for certain.  Actually, he was barely mentioned as a coach in '12 and I don't remember him being listed on the team site but could be wrong.  His role as a defensive assistant working with nickel backs couldn't have been really any different from being assistant DBs coach, but I could see where that staff would look appealing. 

 

Obviously, Chud wanted to poach all he could.  I thought it was funny he'd reportedly wanted Dorsey, who he'd coached in a few stops, badly enough that he never hired a QBs coach, presumably waiting for this staff to go under.  Not that he wanted that to happen, but he definitely was after Dorsey.  

 

I think we got the better end of keeping Proehl v/s Scott Turner, but wish Shula had that counterpoint guy who can really help him on that level, or on the other end had someone experienced with the passing game that could add something that Dorsey/Proehl might still be too green to add.  I think both have done a bang up job, and there aren't openings, so it's irrelevant for me to want that, I guess.

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I don't get the obsession with Norv Turner on this board.

Offensive Coordinator tends to be the coaching position that gets the most hate on this board (usually because people don't understand that no team is successful on every play and/or every drive and thus they set ridiculous expectations in their minds...but I digress).

Norv is a guy with a good rep at that spot.

It's a 'grass is always greener' thing.

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