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Well I guess we'll have to send Gettleman out on the private jet to talk to that fan since he has the inside scoop, what does staff who fined him know anyway.

 

Damn dude, you just now figuring out fans know more than GMs, coaches and other players?

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He scored zero touchdowns, the team had not won more than 2 games in a row all year, and he was supposedly missing team meetings. It's not a smart move. The smart move would have been to say "I'm concerned with where our team is at right now, not myself".

Team had time to sign him to an extension, maybe he feels like it was them who turned their backs on him first.

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I don't understand how anyone can talk about and acknowledge him not giving full effort, yet still want him to join our team. That's a mindset and culture that we've been trying to change with this franchise for years now.

Smitty laid down in 2010, how is that different?
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Are you kidding me?

2010 Season

2010 was Smith's worst season as a starter since 2002. Although he led the team in both receptions and receiving yards, he only managed 46 catches for 554 yards. In addition, he only caught two touchdown passes, 1 fewer than rookie David Gettis. Smith's low numbers were due to the total lack of team offense behind rookie quarterback Jimmy Clausen. The Panthers finished last in most offensive categories and with a 2–14 record, which was the worst in the 2010 season, securing the 1st overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft. Smith's dissatisfaction led to widespread rumors amongst the Panther's fan base that the star receiver wanted to be traded from the team for the 2011 season.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_(wide_receiver,_born_1979)

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2010 Season

2010 was Smith's worst season as a starter since 2002. Although he led the team in both receptions and receiving yards, he only managed 46 catches for 554 yards. In addition, he only caught two touchdown passes, 1 fewer than rookie David Gettis. Smith's low numbers were due to the total lack of team offense behind rookie quarterback Jimmy Clausen. The Panthers finished last in most offensive categories and with a 2–14 record, which was the worst in the 2010 season, securing the 1st overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft. Smith's dissatisfaction led to widespread rumors amongst the Panther's fan base that the star receiver wanted to be traded from the team for the 2011 season.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Smith_(wide_receiver,_born_1979)

I don't even know where to begin with this.....

Why are you citing Wikipedia. Were you not watching the Panthers in 2010? I was, the whole team was awful. Jimmy fugin Clausen man....

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