How many great players do the Panthers have?

[Mother Grabber]

interesting that no one mentioned Hardy at any level, 1st tier, 2nd tier, etc, yet everyone wants to tag and trade him. hope you aren't expecting much, if you don't think he's an elite player.

[Mr. Scot]

interesting that no one mentioned Hardy at any level, 1st tier, 2nd tier, etc, yet everyone wants to tag and trade him. hope you aren't expecting much, if you don't think he's an elite player.

 

Only one person mentioned Thomas Davis.

 

I definitely see Davis as a great player.

 

[Mr. Scot]

Greats:

Matt Kalil

 

Did we trade Ryan for his brother recently?

 

[carpanfan96]

interesting that no one mentioned Hardy at any level, 1st tier, 2nd tier, etc, yet everyone wants to tag and trade him. hope you aren't expecting much, if you don't think he's an elite player.

I didn't mention him because at the moment he's got no contract. If he comes back he would be there though.

[run1stdownrun2nddown]

On a side-note, I want to give Mr. Scot credit for creating good off-season threads and stirring discussion (seriously). No one else has come close.

[Kakarot]

Cam, Keek, Davis, and Kalil

[Mr. Scot]

On a side-note, I want to give Mr. Scot credit for creating good off-season threads and stirring discussion (seriously). No one else has come close.

 

Appreciate the compliment, but I don't think I'm the only person who's created good threads.

 

[MV%doe]

depends what counts, currently keek and cam are the only "greats". kalil, davis, and even youngun star could be put there........ i dont consider tolbert a FB, hes a RB. cj is VERY good, but not having any "great" season, just solid double digits seasons. given the recent retirement of gonzo olsen could be top 5, but not great. past greats smity, gross, even ginn was "great" at osu.

[Panthers8969]

At this point in his career he wouldn't start for most teams. He's no longer a top tier NFL Wr.

That doesn't diminish what he's meant to the franchise though.

Most teams are complete idiots then. Jut looking at smiths stats this year alone he is better then most teams number two receivers. I would bet my right( I'm that confident I chose right not left) testicle that smith would start for let's say all but 4 teams. It's one o clock for me rn and I don't wanna think of all the teams wrs but the broncos come to mind for a team that would start him. Depending in if they can keep their wrs of course

[Panthers8969]

How the number one fb in the league is not considered great according to the OP's condition(would start for most teams) is beyond me. Only one that might not start him is the raiders. Just bc it isn't a skill position doesn't mean he isn't great

[Panthers8969]

interesting that no one mentioned Hardy at any level, 1st tier, 2nd tier, etc, yet everyone wants to tag and trade him. hope you aren't expecting much, if you don't think he's an elite player.

I'm assuming that's bc people consider him a free agent rn. If a 15 sack de isn't starting on every team except the texans( if they draft clowney) then something is seriously screwed up

[Toundra]

Not a lot of love for one of our best player!!!

 

Mike Tolbert!

 

[DEdwards09]

I could see saying that Tolbert would start on any team that uses a true fullback.

 

If it's a team that just uses a stable of runningbacks though, then it's less certain.

 

 

There is nothing less certain about Tolbert. Yes he can start on any team that uses a Fullback. But I will let it be known that he will get his touches at RB as well, regardless of what stable you speak of on any team. Any team that does not put this guy in the backfield as a RB on short yardage conversions, which happens too many times to count, you are thus under utilizing the guy and should not have the opportunity to have him`

[Evengelion]

There was a time when the teams with the most money could just buy all the best players.  Thankfully, the salary cap put an end to that.  And now, every team has to put some serious effort into roster management (with some obviously being better at it than others).

 

It's generally been shown that you can't reach the pinnacle of success building a team with a single superstar surrounded by a bunch of scrubs (you could argue that was the Colts formula for several years).  To be consistently successful, you need to have great players scattered all around the roster, and generally at the right positions.

 

So with that in mind, two questions...

 

One: What positions do you think are the absolute most important to have star players in (limit four, though i could accept five)

 

Two: How many players do the Panthers have that could be considered truly "great players", with "great" being defined as someone who could start at his position for almost any team in the league?

 

And by all means, feel free to name names.

That's not how I remember it. Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, Edgerin James, Mathis, I can keep going. Don't remember that Colts team you described. You're would have been better without that statement.