Gettleman speaks......finally

[panthers55]

Kaepernick and his agent based their 18 million request off of what Cutler just got. One QB can have a profound effect on what other teams and players do. Just one.

 

In other words, if Cam gets extended for 10 million, you don't think that would affect Kaep? It doesn't mean that Kaep would not sign for 18 million, but Kaep would lose a considerable amount of ammo.

 

If Luck signs his over bloated 23+million contract, every QB from Newton to Rodgers to Kaep to Manning will throw Luck a party.

 

But like I said, if I was Newton I would actually wait for Luck.

I don't think that one quarterback will make or break what happens with another quarterback.  There are only 32 guys who start and play the position and those in the top 10 all get similar pay when there next contract comes up.  We can make the money anything we want and put in an average of 25 million if we want.  The only thing that really matters is guaranteed money.  If Cam keeps putting up good numbers and we continue to win he will be worth everything we pay him.  

 

But no to your question I don't think we need to act in order to beat Kaepernick to the punch and I don't think Luck will make or break our negotiations with Newton.  Will it be a factor?  Sure it will but the money we save by waiting to negotiate until next year will cover the few million more it could cost us for the next 10 years. 

[Jackofalltrades]

How is waiting until Luck and the Colts set the QB market not a reason for the Panthers to act?

P55 beat me to it.

[Jackofalltrades]

If by taking it easy you mean at least market value...then we agree.

Thinking that Cam is going to sign a deal less than what Romo/Stafford/Ryan get compensated is a dream ESPECIALLY after being the first player to be subjected to the rookie wage scale.

Rookie wage scale won't have anything to do with it.

[Biggdaddi1022]

lol

[Biggdaddi1022]

I hate hurney !!!!!!!

[heel31ok]

Calling people naive because they disagree with you is an insult.  Not on me, but when I consider your brand of logic, I see where you probably think so. 

didn't call you naive because you disagree . Please show me that. i specified why you were naive and disagreeing with me was not a premise for it.if so then then it would have read," you are so naive because you disagree with me."  i said you were naive to believe that letting one DE end go would make some kind of difference in the cap situation after we overpay Cam and Luke.

[Blackmagic]

yes, they got screwed for being forced to take less than veterans at their same positions, and having their entire contract guaranteed.

Lol

 

I agree with the reason of the CBA decision, but they took an enormous cut out of the rookie deals. Sam Bradford signed 78 million dollar contract with a max of 86 million ( 50 million guaranteed). compared to Cam's 22 million. That's incredible difference. 

[cultclassiccat]

person is killing it on twitter right now

[heel31ok]

 

You don't let a franchise QB go to avoid bargain hunting. You let a DE go--you let a RB go.

 

this is the naive thing I spoke of. Thinking we could pay Cam 20 mil a year and then avoid bargain hunting by letting a DE go or a RB. We do disagree but that is not why you are naive. If we pay him 20 mil bargain hunting will be the staus quo. 

 I never said let the QB go I said don't overpay him.

[heel31ok]

I agree with the reason of the CBA decision, but they took an enormous cut out of the rookie deals. Sam Bradford signed 78 million dollar contract with a max of 86 million ( 50 million guaranteed). compared to Cam's 22 million. That's incredible difference. 

yes and it is ridiculous.

[MHS831]

didn't call you naive because you disagree . Please show me that. i specified why you were naive and disagreeing with me was not a premise for it.if so then then it would have read," you are so naive because you disagree with me."  i said you were naive to believe that letting one DE end go would make some kind of difference in the cap situation after we overpay Cam and Luke.

 

THEN WE ARE IN DISAGREEMENT- How hard is it to figure out that you are calling people naive if they do not see this from your point of view?  If you don't understand that, it explains why you don't understand the QB market.

 

I NEVER said paying Cam (never mentioned Luke's deal) was OVERPAYMENT. You did. You are arguing against assumptions you made.  Like a dog chasing his tail.

 

 

[MHS831]

this is the naive thing I spoke of. Thinking we could pay Cam 20 mil a year and then avoid bargain hunting by letting a DE go or a RB. We do disagree but that is not why you are naive. If we pay him 20 mil bargain hunting will be the staus quo. 

 I never said let the QB go I said don't overpay him.

 

When did I say we could (or want to)  avoid bargain hunting?  Again, you assume and then you attack an erroneous assumption.  That is naive.  I endorse bargain hunting, I live for it.  I want Gettlemen to become the best bargain hunter in the NFL.   Is that clear?  You assume that bargain hunting is a bad thing.  That suggests that you want to pay top dollar for non-core talent.  Is this you, Marty Hurney?

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[IGSaint]

I hope we don't end up having to draft another QB soon and start this clock all over again.

 

Gettleman has already stated multiple times that cam is the panther's qb that they are going to lock up. People really don't listen. 

[heel31ok]

THEN WE ARE IN DISAGREEMENT- How hard is it to figure out that you are calling people naive if they do not see this from your point of view?  If you don't understand that, it explains why you don't understand the QB market.

 

I NEVER said paying Cam (never mentioned Luke's deal) was OVERPAYMENT. You did. You are arguing against assumptions you made.  Like a dog chasing his tail.

you said i called you naive because you dis agree whioch is incorrect. i called you naive for what you said about DE and RB.We may disagree but that was not the premise the premise was thinking getting rid of a DE or RB would eliminate bargain hunting.

 We are not talking about the QB market you have interjected that which is not the point and which I already pointed oput to you but you don't get it. the market has nothing to do with how much we can spend before we end up in perpetual bargain hunting mode.  Ok i'll go one more time and see if you can figure it out. We cannot pay Cam 20 mil and get out of our bargain hunting mode.It has nothing to do with the QB market.It has to do with how much money we have under the cap to spend. it is a fact not an assumption so unless you have new facts then your charge of an assumption is incorrect.Just as you thinking we can just drop a RB and DE and all will be well under the cap.

 

 

 you never said paying Cam was overpayment, so? You make no sense at all.

 

If we overpay Cam we will be in perpetual bargain hunting mode year after year until he is done.That is undeniable, that is what I said all along. I have said the same thing you have made something else out to be the point.