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Don't Overlook Gilmore

Apr 21 2012 05:32 PM ClarkCam Carolina Panthers
Let me explain my thoughts and reasoning. This guy has 4.4 speed, is 6'1", 190 pounds, and is all around prototypical corner build. This guy has also played at the SEC level and was a leader on his team. Gilmore has been shooting up draft boards and has even been rumored to be seen as better than Claiborne. If we got this guy, I think this would be not a reach, but a great pick. It fills a need, and he would arguable be the best player on the board.

Here are sources citing how highly he is ranked comparatively to Claiborne, and picks.

SI's Peter King, Dan Pompei of the National Football Post, and NFL Network's Mike Mayock and Mike Lombardi have all recently either reported or suggested that Gilmore is top-ten material. In Caplan's mock draft he has Gilmore going to Buffalo with the tenth overall pick.

People all around the league are talking about the potential and skill of this guy, and most of you are too stubborn to like him. All corners will get burned, and yes, he needs to stay lower to the ground in his backpedal, but this guy is top 10 material.

NFL Films' Greg Cosell also stated in a Friday radio interview that Gilmore is a better prospect than Claiborne, the 2011 Thorpe Award winner. "He's a hot guy," Lombardi said of Gilmore. "I was told Jacksonville actually likes him more than Claiborne." Lombardi also sent Gilmore to the Jags in his latest mock draft. At this point, we'd be surprised if Gilmore got out of the top-ten picks, and No. 7 seems his likeliest destination.

http://www.rotoworld...stephon-gilmore

Here is just a video showing some good and bad plays of Gilmore. One of the better blitzers out of the slot that I've seen at corner.

This is from a year ago mind you, and he has been getting better...... This guy breaks on the ball hard.

So, what I am trying to say is, don't discount this guy. He is a legitimate prospect who has good game tape as well.

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Sounds great
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Jackofalltrades
Apr 21 2012 05:34 PM
I'd have no problem taking him, as long as we do something about the front 7 in the second.
Hmmm, in a trade down scenario sure.
At our 9 spot though DLine if Claiborne isn't there.
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CardiacCats
Apr 21 2012 05:39 PM
No, Janoris is x1000 better
I'm not convinced.
I've seen a lot of people high on him based on size and athletiscism, not because of his work on the field. That's what worries me.

Its not that I hate Gilmore, it's just I think a combo of cox/Jenkins would be much better than Gilmore/curry, or whoever is the best d lineman in the second. Plus, what if we take Gilmore in the first then BPA in the second which could be, for example Kendall Wright.

tl;dr: I want a top d-lineman in this draft, and taking Gilmore in the first decreases the likelihood of that happening



He got raped by Lance Lewis....LANCE FREAKING LEWIS...
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The Special One
Apr 21 2012 05:49 PM

http://youtu.be/iZN-whn0cyk


He got raped by Lance Lewis....LANCE FREAKING LEWIS...

Seriously? That's disgusting!
I want Lance Lewis on this team..
I would love a tall, physical corner.
Lance lewis?
Immediate third rounder at best
I don't know what it is, but this kid just screams BUST.

The workouts look great, but I think at the end of the day, Kirkpatrick is just a better football player.

I'd have no problem taking him, as long as we do something about the front 7 in the second.


I think it's fairly safe to say we will either go 1-DB 2-Front Seven or vise versa.
Let's just draft Gilmore, then Lewis in the seventh. Win-Win!
It's your desire to not draft him that is telling you he is a bust.
Not with the 9th pick. I dont like reaching for need. Take the BPA at #9, or trade down.
I think Gilmore has been moving up board because all the other CBs are boneheads. Dre gets caught with weed, Janoris has a laundry list, Minnifield had surgery, and now Alfonzo punches a cop (after getting in a fight in his final college game and looking like poop in the senior bowl practice before leaving early in the week).

He's good and I was once almost sucked in by the hype of him being top 10 material. But I just don't think he's worth it unless Cox and Coples are both gone and no trade is possible. And even then, Floyd or Kluechly might be a better option.

I don't know what it is, but this kid just screams BUST.

The workouts look great, but I think at the end of the day, Kirkpatrick is just a better football player.

But he isn't. Dre has half as many tackles & ints.

Lance Lewis caught so many passes/yards because the garbage DC wanted the CBs to play 5-10 yards off 3/4ths of the time against a spread team that throws the ball 60 times a game.

But he isn't. Dre has half as many tackles & ints.

Lance Lewis caught so many passes/yards because the garbage DC wanted the CBs to play 5-10 yards off 3/4ths of the time against a spread team that throws the ball 60 times a game.


I don't think there's a position in football where stats are more worthless than CB. If a CB is doing his job, he's not going to rack up stats because the QB is going to be avoiding him.

I'm intrigued by Gilmore, but I don't want him at #9. The only CB I would want at #9 would be Claiborne.

I don't think there's a position in football where stats are more worthless than CB. If a CB is doing his job, he's not going to rack up stats because the QB is going to be avoiding him.

I'm intrigued by Gilmore, but I don't want him at #9. The only CB I would want at #9 would be Claiborne.

Tackles maybe, but ints are in no way a meaningless stats when it comes to CBs. That's as important as sacks for DEs.
Dre had 3 ints versus Gilmore's 8, 4 of which he had this past season.
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CardiacCats
Apr 21 2012 06:53 PM
This is the only pick we can make at 9 they would really make me rage

Tackles maybe, but ints are in no way a meaningless stats when it comes to CBs. That's as important as sacks for DEs.
Dre had 3 ints versus Gilmore's 8, 4 of which he had this past season.


Not really. INTs are overrated when looking at how a CB performs. Just look at Reevis. I think it was two years ago that he had no INTs because he was able to shut down his side of the field. INTs do indicate you have good ball skills but it can also be an indication of being thrown at a lot. But lack of INTs isn't a bad sign either.

Not really. INTs are overrated when looking at how a CB performs. Just look at Reevis. I think it was two years ago that he had no INTs because he was able to shut down his side of the field. INTs do indicate you have good ball skills but it can also be an indication of being thrown at a lot. But lack of INTs isn't a bad sign either.

Overrated isn't meaningless, and neither are they overrated. How many superbowls have been won, or secured, because of an interception returned for a touchdown? More than one in the past few years has.
It isn't a bad sign, but it can show bad ball skills when it's in the air. Dre doesn't have nearly the same skills that Gilmore does when the ball is in the air, and Revis has more than both of them.
You remember that 360 int Revis made when he was covering Smith? That wasn't meaningless or overrated.
I guess it's not meaningless but it's not something you look to when comparing corners like you did.

And yes I would consider it overrated. And Reevis isn't a good corner because he can make a 360 INT, he is good because he limits the throws to his side of the field.
Gilmore picked off Taylor Martinez, Justin Worley, Morgan Newton, and Larry Smith.

I could pick off those guys.