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I like that Kon and Kalkbrenner started. They are playing efficiently.

To be fair it's in their best interest to keep him in the game.

That’s disgusting

Off the top of my head: LaPorta - 2nd round McBride - 2nd round Ferguson - 4th round Freiermuth - 2nd round Andrews - 3rd round Bowers is a freak of nature, but TEs that change the game can be found outside the 1st round.

Upgrade where you can, when you can. Reaching based on need doesn't help you.

That's the only place a game breaking can't miss player is available on any draft and yet some of them still bust.

Figured I'd make one after hijacking the Kon thread. Hornets up 86-65 midway through the third.

It's not about taking TE off the board, it's that we have bigger needs at too many other more important positions, to where using our precious draft capital or cap room on improving the TE doesn't make sense this offseason, when we do have young guys who aren't bad and have real potential. TE needs will fall behind our needs at all 3 levels on defense and at least Center on offense. I just don't see any scenario where taking a TE in the draft or using cap room on one makes sense over those other positions when we have some real potential in our TE room on cheap contracts.

His catch rate is much better with Andy tham Bryce. Bryce has trouble connecting with XL

Crazy there's no game thread on opening night.

The only place a game breaking can't miss TE is available, is in the 1st round of the draft. Yes, you can hit on them from anywhere else, but even once you're in the 2nd round it's by no means a game changing TE that you're not going to miss on. So there's no way I'd be on board with a TE in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft either, not with who we already have. So, if we're sitting there in the 1st round next year, there is no way a Bowers type of TE falls to us while at the same time not having any other available players there at positions of a bigger need, particularly on defense. A game changing TE is obviously a great player to have, but it's also probably the least important position to have impact players at. Because of that combined with what we've seen from our guys who are all on cheap contracts for the next few years, I can't see any scenario where it would make sense for us to bring in any new TE's next year (outside of late season major injuries to where we obviously wouldn't have them next year, like Brooks this year).

Hornets up 77-60 at halftime. Miller leads the Hornets with 17 points.

Sanders is a drive killer. That’s who he is as an NFL player.

Getting ready to watch this and thought someone else might be interested. It looks like he is getting endorsed we’ll see. I can take this guy he doesn’t yell and hype stuff - pretty low key. I don’t know if he knows his business or not but I watch every once in a while slwhen I am browsing YouTube. Just saw this in the feed.

Sanders looked like a guy who didn't belong in the league at first then improved then got hurt. I still don't know who he is as an NFL player but I haven't seen enough yet to count on him as anything more than camp competition long term. Tremble is a mediocre #2/solid #3. That's just what he is. That people are excited about Mitchell Evans and his 9 catches for 90 yards through 7 games kinda says everything about our TE group. Wanting to take TE off the board this off-season is bat poo crazy.

Peak Huddling.

That's why you gotta be careful about those early takes. Pretty sure there are a lot of dusty ass Kelvin Benjamin jersey's out there.

I stated initially he should have been traded for the rams deal but once we didn’t take it, they should have extended him, we gave all the leverage up once that trade proposal leaked

Last year people were saying how Sanders was the best pick of the draft. week 8 and he hasn’t done poo. That is some devalued stock right now.

I don't think you forgo the opportunity to upgrade a position significantly because the team has other issues. That is gonna be the case for several more offseasons as we attempt to build. If you have the opportunity to get a game changing TE, you take them. Now, I do mean largely through the draft. I don't think we should be breaking the bank on a TE in free agency.

I remember watching a game I think vs Dallas at a bar so it might have been a Thursday night, but I think it was Nick Hayden just getting his ass handed to him and it was so depressing.

Think maybe people are running out of patience with our QB situation?

This offseason, yes, because we have too many other needs to where it won’t be reaching for something else instead of a TE upgrade. If these guys were out of contract and it was extend them to bring in someone better, that would be a different discussion then. But we still need upgrades at every level of the defense, a long term center, backup OL, and maybe even WR depending how the year shakes out with XL and Coker. (all of the above is also ignoring the QB question that will still trump all else) I’d struggle to see a situation where a draft pick or FA signing makes more sense for a TE than the best player at a position we’re in worse shape at.

Backers? If you mean Bryce backers read it again it’s kind of funny.