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I don’t know what he is. I feel like he the driving force behind the team being where it is the last few years with the QB obsession and that trade up at the root of it.

The sad thing is that Tua and Murray peaked a lot higher than Bryce. Those teams are warnings for not paying mediocre starters like franchise QBs but they're not equivalents to our situation. Those guys were significantly better than Bryce is now when they got paid.

I don’t remember the game but I could swear we saw that earlier in the year. Same fold. The 5th to last pass Young made was absolutely a big time throw. That last bit, turn in your clutch card.

I doubt it. Who would hitch their wagon to Bryce? Bryce is pretty much a default excuse. Tepper may be a lot of things, but he isn't daft or oblivious to dynamics.

BTP, you get a half point if you get within 3 yards before the ball is thrown.

Canales is 100% at fault for calling long balls on the 1st 3 plays. Didn't need to get it all in one chunk with 3 time outs. But it's also Bryce's job to know the situation, read the defense, and adapt to what's being given. With 3 timeouts you have the option to go into the middle of the field and stop the clock. Situational awareness by DC and BY were both horrible. DC does not have the chops to be HC and OC.

100%. Great teams pick in this range every year and find good players.

Its pre combine. He is going to test off the charts

Its an alias for big time pressures

What in the sweet fug is "havoc?"

Yep. And Kris Jenkins. It was good. Great times for a fan of defensive football.

Of course, having Julius Peppers makes a colossal difference in that situation. If only...

He was not considered small back then. I have no idea where you are getting this.

Tomlin is 53? Damn it feels like he has been there since Chuck Noll

We pretty much rely on Derek Brown to wreck their offensive line single-handedly in hopes someone makes it through. We are also terrified of being historically bad against the run, again.

I can tell you would suck off Bryce and average football till it hurts your jaw.

With this front office you're more likely to get a Alex Smith mega deal

Alex smith is much better than Bryce

Sorry I flashed on all the 4 man rushes that defeated us. As far as our D take me back to a 4-3 and the guys from 2003 era. 4 could do it. I know under Tepper we are doomed to rot with this 3-4.

Bingo. That’s the whole point of this thread.

Its all about getting pressure without blitzing tbh. That's what made the Panthers defense so good in 2003 and 2015. If you have linemen that straight up beat the other team, its easy street. It was good enough for Eli to beat Tom in the Super Bowl twice.

He's the current Panthers JAG S, the last time they had a actual S duo was Coleman-Harper and Coleman-Adams.

This is about our inability to create any kind of pressure on the qb.. Even when we blitz

This is just so both the Steelers and Tomlin can save face. The Steelers don't fire their coaches and this way Tomlin also saves face. It's really transparent they basically fired him.

Talking in flattering terms about our OL should be banned until they can stonewall 4 guys. Any OL. I mean, 5 on 4 and plus a TE and a back, you still leak like a sieve, you aren’t getting it done. Should be embarrassed.