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Okay. I finally found it and put it up a couple pages back.

Wut? 2023 - worst in the NFL 2024 - 2nd worst in the NFL 2025 - 6th worst in the NFL that cements him as having the highest bad throw % in the NFL since arriving in 2023 in what world is that not consistently high? And the last 2 games are doing a lot of work

I agree that he plays scared and far too often. I go to game 3 2024 Andy vs LV. The exact play, I don’t remember but what I do clearly remember is Andy stood tall in the face of pressure and stepped into a throw knowing he was gonna get hit. Made the throw, took the hit, made the play - pretty sure it was downfield. When Bryce came back in in garbage time it wasn’t long before I saw him do that. And I knew he had seen Andy and understood that if he wanted it, that is how he was going to have to play. But it didn’t last. This season he was back to bailing out saw it in preseason and knew it was the old Bryce. Playing not to get hit. Sometimes you have to pay the price or you don’t make the play. I get him being skittish. Could I do it? I was pretty much his size in high school. I bet I would try but getting killed a couple of times would probably have me acting just like him. But if he doesn’t sack up, pay attention to his mechanics, and remain diligent about that, he won’t make it.

Not like Mayfield and Darnold which is the point CRA was making

100% He will have to develop more arch on his throws to get it further downfield. Right now he is comfortable throwing no more than 20 yards.

Well if you think the talent of the receivers a QB has to throw to does not make a difference in their output, than there's nothing else for me to say because I think it makes all the diference in the world. Guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

According to ProFootball Reference's advance passing stats: Bryce Young is at 22% bad passes Caleb Williams is at 21% bad passes Cam Ward is at 22% bad passes Michael Penix is at 22% bad passes He doesn't look "crazy" high to me when compared to others.

No, it's his arm, plain and simple. He has the weakest arm of any starting QB in the NFL, that will always be an issue for him no matter what else he improves on. And don't point to him zipping in that 4th down pass this weekend as to him having a strong enough arm, that's not the same thing. He's unable to drive balls into spots downfield like almost every other starting QB, which is a problem. But even more than that, it's when he has to throw off base, as he doesn't have the adequate arm strength to still make those throws at a high enough level like most other QB's can. It's why we see so many of those throws come up short of the WR, sometimes well short, and not on purpose by him, but you can just see he's putting his all behind the throw but he's off base and doesn't have the arm to make up for it. And yes, I know he does still make some good throws when he's on the move, but that's still only the case when he's able to have a balanced and purposeful throw. You know the plays I"m talking about, they're painfully obvious, and they're throws all the good QB's are able to make because of the difference in arm (and just body) strength.

Constantly going to the but his weapons aren’t good enough argument….is conceding he isn’t what we claimed/thought he was. Entire argument and rationale for the pick is he would be a highly efficient point guard QB that doesn’t need great weapons and the resources could go elsewhere. and Bryce Young has one of the worst comp % this year…..with a very good OL, very good backfield and decent weapons. It’s Bryce. He is consistent. Low comp %. Super high bad throw %. Everything changes. He is largely the same.

I saw the podcast too

Wut?

Bree's is not known for attacking the field

I disagree about the talent not making a difference. Last season, Bryce completed 77.4% of his passes to Theilen. He only completed 58.3% to Legette. The only difference is one is a better receiver / route runner than the other.

I get it, but you then choose to compare that to other QBs…who largely attack the pass game vastly different than Bryce. So you got to talk beyond the stat while having the convo. Bryce should have a high completion % given the way he attacks field vs how a young Cam did or a Jake. Always going to the but the talent! ….does’t work at this point. Bryce’s is very low and his bad throw % is also crazy high Bryce shouldn’t be a 60% QB and he should have low turnover % given he isn’t aggressively attacking downfield and doesn’t generate a lot of production. Bryce if he plays his style of ball well would have a very high comp% and low turnovers (that’s what he is supposed to be and isn’t). Gunslingers, big play guys….should have a lower comp % and more turnovers than Bryce.

Tre knows how to hype you up, glad he's getting some air time after years of game reaction posts on Twitter

Yea he was setting the edge pretty good in the run defense

Makes sense. And with most players like this you just have to take the good with the bad. Bryce’s problem is that it was pretty much all bad early on and now I’d argue it’s much more even. Overall the guys he’s throwing it to are young and as they begin to trust each other that should all improve.

This is my hang up, overall. It’s a struggle for him to get past 200 yards. I need to see more 300 yard games and a 400 yarder mixed in. He can’t do that.

I’m obviously on the other end of the spectrum, but I can respect this; especially coming from you. You have proven to know what you’re talking about

newton had horrible accuracy every agrees on that his athletic ability made up for it. bryces accuracy from just watching is on par with newtons but newton had a way sttonger arm so would attempt alot more longer passes. bryce attempts short passes for most part still has horrible accuracy and has prtty much 0 athletic ability to go with it

Yea tough break I don't even remember him getting injured

The deep sigh I just took could've been heard in Kentucky.

Do we trade for a Edge or roll with what we have?? https://x.com/Panthers/status/1978546553833832506?s=19

Well, to some extent. Some people believe Stafford is a shoe-in for the HOF. Alternatively, some folks think he is a very skilled stat compiler. I guess there is a difference in some minds about the circumstances and perspective.

Can we stop with the stupid attention whore hot take type posts and just enjoy a winning streak for once?